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<blockquote data-quote="KesselZero" data-source="post: 5853051" data-attributes="member: 6689976"><p>I definitely hear this, and I totally agree that anyone demanding that their &quot;thing&quot; HAS to be in the core is being unreasonable, especially if their &quot;thing&quot; is more complexity (e.g. 4e-style tactical combats). However, if we followed the modularity thing to its ultimate end, we'd end up with a system where you could just rebuild 1e or 4e and play exactly that game-- and what would be the point of that? Why not just play 1e or 4e? So I think 5e has to have some sort of meaningful core or else nobody will buy it. Some posters have called for it to include new mechanics that take advantage of 40 years of RPG design theory, so that even your 1e-style game won't have the same rules as 1e. But again, that would require a stronger core, one that says &quot;here's how some things are going to be done, and it's not the same as 1e but it can be used to play a 1e-style game.&quot; For example, the talk from seminars etc. about automatic skill successes, basing everything on ability scores with slight modifiers, etc. sounds to me (although of course I'm guessing) like they intend it to be part of the core, and these will be somewhat new rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="KesselZero, post: 5853051, member: 6689976"] I definitely hear this, and I totally agree that anyone demanding that their "thing" HAS to be in the core is being unreasonable, especially if their "thing" is more complexity (e.g. 4e-style tactical combats). However, if we followed the modularity thing to its ultimate end, we'd end up with a system where you could just rebuild 1e or 4e and play exactly that game-- and what would be the point of that? Why not just play 1e or 4e? So I think 5e has to have some sort of meaningful core or else nobody will buy it. Some posters have called for it to include new mechanics that take advantage of 40 years of RPG design theory, so that even your 1e-style game won't have the same rules as 1e. But again, that would require a stronger core, one that says "here's how some things are going to be done, and it's not the same as 1e but it can be used to play a 1e-style game." For example, the talk from seminars etc. about automatic skill successes, basing everything on ability scores with slight modifiers, etc. sounds to me (although of course I'm guessing) like they intend it to be part of the core, and these will be somewhat new rules. [/QUOTE]

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