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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 7100103" data-attributes="member: 31754">Actually it was my scorn stare, and it isn't that effective. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As for frenzy, sure. How many resources is being dumped into it? With no level dips or feats it is 1d6+Str+2 twice and and extra 1d6+2 for the off-hand attack. That is still less than a two handed sword that does 2d6+Str+2 twice. If he takes a level of Fighter and the Dual Wielder feat it is 3d8+3+2 x3, but he is giving up stuff to get it.I honestly don't know what the TB/SM build is. I get Shield Master? But how do you Two Weapon Fight with a shield in your hands? I guess that has something to do with the TB part?Really I haven't seen anywhere where the increased damage from stacking Two Weapon Fighting with something else isn't still out damaged by some other combination that is already in the game. Or if it is, you are giving up other things in order to do just a few points of damage more.</blockquote>