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<blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 7167603" data-attributes="member: 60210"><p>OK, well let's fix up that comparison a bit. We should give the longsword (or better, rapier) ranger the duelist style (and then keep in mind he also gets +2 AC for his shield). And let's assume we're past level 5, since that's when I think most of your adventuring career takes place. Then the 2WFer has three attacks at (2d6+mod) = 12, for 36 total. The rapier has two attacks at (1d8+1d6+2+mod) =15, for 30 total. That seems fine to me, you won't always have Hunter's Mark up and the shield is certainly worth something.</p><p></p><p>But my actual comment was about the houserule suggested by the OP. So let's instead assume that the ranger gets a bonus action attack from haste or something, but that the extra TWF attack is free. Then the TWFer gets 4 attacks for 48 total, the rapier gets 3 attacks for 45 total. This favors the rapier (compared to when there's no bonus action attack available); thus my claim that TWF+bonus attack is not effective enough to worry about.</p><p></p><p>It's not that I think TWF is terrible. It's that a bonus attack is always worth more to the guy with the bigger weapon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jaelis, post: 7167603, member: 60210"] OK, well let's fix up that comparison a bit. We should give the longsword (or better, rapier) ranger the duelist style (and then keep in mind he also gets +2 AC for his shield). And let's assume we're past level 5, since that's when I think most of your adventuring career takes place. Then the 2WFer has three attacks at (2d6+mod) = 12, for 36 total. The rapier has two attacks at (1d8+1d6+2+mod) =15, for 30 total. That seems fine to me, you won't always have Hunter's Mark up and the shield is certainly worth something. But my actual comment was about the houserule suggested by the OP. So let's instead assume that the ranger gets a bonus action attack from haste or something, but that the extra TWF attack is free. Then the TWFer gets 4 attacks for 48 total, the rapier gets 3 attacks for 45 total. This favors the rapier (compared to when there's no bonus action attack available); thus my claim that TWF+bonus attack is not effective enough to worry about. It's not that I think TWF is terrible. It's that a bonus attack is always worth more to the guy with the bigger weapon. [/QUOTE]
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