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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8560703" data-attributes="member: 326">Howdy dave2008 mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Yet in so doing they made ALL their epic monsters completely weak pushovers that get stomped by epic tier characters,Indirectly you are weakening them though.Wrong, I am building it into the CR gradually rather than all at once.Only Mythic Monsters get their XP adjusted.I'm using the primary factors not the secondary factors, because they are a waste of time (assuming you don't go overboard with pages of actions).If PC immortals get Legendary Actions then you can't nerf the NPC immortals who have them. I prefer a level playing field.DPR is already counted for with the Primary factors. If something looks completely bonkers (permanent damage for instance) I'll make a judgement call on toning the damage down but unless its a complete game changer I'll leave it as is - epic PCs are helluva tough.As regards teleport, a 3 action version might be an interupt. But two vanilla teleports should both be 1 action, not 1 for this guy and 3 for this guy.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Unnecessarily so in my opinion.Yes best to wait and see for yourself.Without some sort of structure to it there is no point.  Power is RELATIVE. Demon Princes contest with one another because they are all on a similar strata of power. That's why WotC have them at similar CR's.I need to know how powerful these gods are within a fairly tight 'bandwidth'. Otherwise titles (like Demon Prince) become meaningless.Ever? Seven Level 20 characters are tougher than four, for instance.I'll try to have a few in there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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