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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iatesand" data-source="post: 7006853" data-attributes="member: 6793578">Once again, its not my opinion that makes it crap. If I had never read the 4e manual of planes it would still be crap. My opinion has nothing to do with it. The 5e rules as presented in the players handbook (you know the rule book? right? you seen it?) has reverted away from the 4e. So much for the cleaning out the Augean stables huh. They didn't do that because it such a great improvement. You are free to like it even if it was crap. I think the concept of the "Plane" of Feywild is crap but I really like the concept of the setting. It could have been its own campaign setting.Let me say it a way you might be able to understand. You can like a bad movie all you want.. it is still a bad movie.  At that point you can argue how good the move is or you can suck it up and say I like it even though its a bad movie.Dave buddy you seem a little lost, if you played DnD in the 80's you know that 4e changed the cosmology of the universe. It a clear change from everything else. They added planes, they moved planes, they removed planes and they merged planes.  In 5e they scrap the majority of it and went back the original concepts.  I don't lack knowledge in that aspect as I can freely point to the source material if you need it.5e seems to be a refinement or evolution of the DnD settings , the world axis more a deviation.  My opinion of this is moot.  It is what it is. There is nothing for you to be defensive about, I don't care if you love the wheel, the tree,the axis or any of the other examples they provide for creating your own campaign world.  But the GAME DESIGNERS picked the wheel.EDIT: I don't want to hijack this thread bickering back and forth with you on what ever bovine scatology straw arguments you want to muck off the Augean stables floor. (like how I included your reference in that? It was very inclusive of me) the focus should be on his creation and the fine job he did putting it together, so if you have a reply take it to private  messages and we can spare these good people our squabbling.</blockquote>

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