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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7006880" data-attributes="member: 83242">Correct, because it is not crap<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I am always surprised that people have such narrow perspectives.  Your logic is extremely flawed.  You are trying to apply an objective determination to a subjective quality.  By what metric have you, or the entire world I guess, determined the World Axis cosmology is crap?You are of course free to call something crap, but doing so does not make it so.  To be clear, even if WA is objectively not as good as the GW that would not make it crap.  The quality of a fictional cosmology is almost entirely subjective.  It is an opinion, not an objective fact.  Your continued ramblings will not change that fact.I am aware.  However, the fact that it changed things doesn't make the cosmology crap.  It might be frustrating to those who are tethered to the Great Wheel, but that is beside the point.  It might change one's view of the cosmology, but it doesn't mean it has more or less merit as a cosmology.To be honest I was thinking more about the overall mythology of World Axis and not just the cosmos itself.  Knowledge of what was added and subtracted or rearranged is only the surface of it.  If that is the extent of your knowledge, then you have answered my question.Oh I wouldn't say I love the World Axis cosmos, but I do prefer it to the Great Wheel.  In fact, the cosmos we use has bits of both.  We have the traditional outer planes of the great wheel located like the domains within the astral sea and we have the positive and negative plans too, but I am think about dropping them as they don't do anything for us.  I actually constructed a 3d CAD model of it once, but I am not sure what happened to it.  I definitely prefer the World Axis mythology, but that could be used with the Great Wheel with little effort.What is your point?  Are you trying to suggest that because WotC switched back to the Great Wheel (mostly) for 5e that the World Axis is crap?  Again, that is a very narrow perspective. As I noted above, even if the GW is better, that doesn't make the WA crap.I wonder, can you explain what you believe makes the World Axis objectively crap?  Or, what makes the Great Wheel Great?</blockquote>

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