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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1471667" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>I understand that the bad social order vs. anarchy isn't the conundrum you're proposing. I'm just saying that making a good order a non-option is the only real way to remove questions of good and evil from the equation and have a straightforward law/chaos conflict.</p><p></p><p>As for equating good with law and chaos with evil, I'll admit that I've done that a bit in this thread. Intellectually, however, I think I can make an equally good case for the opposite by emphasizing the need for freedom (the purpose of a good order is freedom etc) and growth. On the whole, I don't think that law and chaos as traditionally expressed in D&D can represent a coherent philosophy (the big problem with the Elric saga's take on them (which BTW is more coherent and subtly different than D&D's) is that both are equally and absolutely destructive of life). Instead, they incorporate a few dozen different and, in some cases, mutually exclusive or contradictory ideas.</p><p></p><p>From the sounds of things, your defenders of the cosmic contract vs. hippies, powermongers, and anarchists conflict could work and be very interesting. However, I'm not sure that it maps directly and coherently to D&D law and chaos.</p><p></p><p>BTW, are you sure that contract theory is the best way to simulate what you're going for. I would think that Natural Law or Divine Command theories might be more appropriate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1471667, member: 3146"] I understand that the bad social order vs. anarchy isn't the conundrum you're proposing. I'm just saying that making a good order a non-option is the only real way to remove questions of good and evil from the equation and have a straightforward law/chaos conflict. As for equating good with law and chaos with evil, I'll admit that I've done that a bit in this thread. Intellectually, however, I think I can make an equally good case for the opposite by emphasizing the need for freedom (the purpose of a good order is freedom etc) and growth. On the whole, I don't think that law and chaos as traditionally expressed in D&D can represent a coherent philosophy (the big problem with the Elric saga's take on them (which BTW is more coherent and subtly different than D&D's) is that both are equally and absolutely destructive of life). Instead, they incorporate a few dozen different and, in some cases, mutually exclusive or contradictory ideas. From the sounds of things, your defenders of the cosmic contract vs. hippies, powermongers, and anarchists conflict could work and be very interesting. However, I'm not sure that it maps directly and coherently to D&D law and chaos. BTW, are you sure that contract theory is the best way to simulate what you're going for. I would think that Natural Law or Divine Command theories might be more appropriate. [/QUOTE]
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