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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 6737996" data-attributes="member: 6799660">I'm not schooled in either modern or medieval production costs for archery goods, so I'm out of that discussion. I don't think it's relevant to the game as written (of course, this discussion is about changing that). D&amp;D/PF has a very clearly gamist economy. Ammunition is cheap (frankly that's true in games with firearms as well, quite often, unless you're using GURPS and firing APFSDSDU ammo or something). Probably to make people firing weapons choose to do so. I think the question when comparing the game to real life archers would be better served by asking, &quot;how is the experience of firing arrows in combat different for real world archers than for PCs?&quot; We already have had some disagreement on how many arrows a real world and game world archer shoots in a given battle. What about re-use? Do we think the game rules successfully mimic how often arrows are re-used. I suspect that no one fielding a squad of archers would ever not buy arrows for them because of the cost, so what are the real limiting factors? Is it how many arrows you can carry/the infrastructure of keeping archers supplied? Arrows are more than a weight of encumbrance. Carrying more than a sheaf or two is significantly difficult. Is that more of a limiting factor?In the end, I don't know exactly how bows were used on the battlefield, but I also know that PCs are rarely on the battlefield. They act as small team skirmishers against enemies which often act very different than an opposing army. That would be interesting to explore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 6737996, member: 6799660"] I'm not schooled in either modern or medieval production costs for archery goods, so I'm out of that discussion. I don't think it's relevant to the game as written (of course, this discussion is about changing that). D&D/PF has a very clearly gamist economy. Ammunition is cheap (frankly that's true in games with firearms as well, quite often, unless you're using GURPS and firing APFSDSDU ammo or something). Probably to make people firing weapons choose to do so. I think the question when comparing the game to real life archers would be better served by asking, "how is the experience of firing arrows in combat different for real world archers than for PCs?" We already have had some disagreement on how many arrows a real world and game world archer shoots in a given battle. What about re-use? Do we think the game rules successfully mimic how often arrows are re-used. I suspect that no one fielding a squad of archers would ever not buy arrows for them because of the cost, so what are the real limiting factors? Is it how many arrows you can carry/the infrastructure of keeping archers supplied? Arrows are more than a weight of encumbrance. Carrying more than a sheaf or two is significantly difficult. Is that more of a limiting factor? In the end, I don't know exactly how bows were used on the battlefield, but I also know that PCs are rarely on the battlefield. They act as small team skirmishers against enemies which often act very different than an opposing army. That would be interesting to explore. [/QUOTE]

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