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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7841456" data-attributes="member: 4937">To me as well, but I wanted to add that we can't know from whether someone is an &quot;apprentice&quot; what level they are as a wizard.&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Apprentice&quot; is an in universe social role, and social role isn't strictly dictated by metagame constructs like level.&nbsp;&nbsp; It certainly could be the case that in your homebrew universe as soon as a wizard could cast a first level spell, he'd finished his apprenticeship and was turned out by his master to go out on his own.&nbsp; That could be in the context of your setting reasonable.But it's not actually a construction of the rules. If some wizard says to you, &quot;I'm Master Merlin's apprentice.&quot;, in most settings you probably shouldn't treat this as a confession of the character's level. For all you know, he's a prodigy specially chosen by Merlin, has been casting 1st level spells since he was nine, has been occasionally out adventuring with Old Merlin himself, and is this universe's equivalent of Harry Potter or Hermione Grainger. All you should probably take from the statement is, &quot;I'm not as good of a wizard as Merlin (yet).&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7841456, member: 4937"] To me as well, but I wanted to add that we can't know from whether someone is an "apprentice" what level they are as a wizard. "Apprentice" is an in universe social role, and social role isn't strictly dictated by metagame constructs like level. It certainly could be the case that in your homebrew universe as soon as a wizard could cast a first level spell, he'd finished his apprenticeship and was turned out by his master to go out on his own. That could be in the context of your setting reasonable. But it's not actually a construction of the rules. If some wizard says to you, "I'm Master Merlin's apprentice.", in most settings you probably shouldn't treat this as a confession of the character's level. For all you know, he's a prodigy specially chosen by Merlin, has been casting 1st level spells since he was nine, has been occasionally out adventuring with Old Merlin himself, and is this universe's equivalent of Harry Potter or Hermione Grainger. All you should probably take from the statement is, "I'm not as good of a wizard as Merlin (yet)." [/QUOTE]

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