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<blockquote data-quote="abri" data-source="post: 201088" data-attributes="member: 1080">So looking at stronghold builder's guide yesterday (not sure if it's the correct name, I'm in my lab right now) found it quite nice.Well that is untill I started calculating the cost of various building:1) First example: a small weaponsmith forge and shop. It takes two spaces and HAS to be made in masonry&nbsp; (heaven help the fool who try to make it in wood). Cost around 6000 GPThat rather a LOT: the weaponsmith would have to make and sell&nbsp; more than 600 long swords (at 10GP profit per sword) before he can pay that back!Also it is way over the cash limit for anything but a small city!2) a traditional medieval town house: 1space worth of bedroom suite and one space of shop.Cost: easily over 5000 GP!Ok, I know we shouldn't compare to real medieval cost,but that's 100 pounds of gold! That's the definition of a king's ransom! (Ps: the biggest ransom&nbsp; ever paid in medieval time according to legends was for king Richard&nbsp; and it was 10000 marks if I remember correctly, that's 800000 sp or 80000GP)I see now why there are L20 commoners: before they can be a rutabaga farmer, they need to go and kill a dragon to have the money for the farm! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="abri, post: 201088, member: 1080"] So looking at stronghold builder's guide yesterday (not sure if it's the correct name, I'm in my lab right now) found it quite nice. Well that is untill I started calculating the cost of various building: 1) First example: a small weaponsmith forge and shop. It takes two spaces and HAS to be made in masonry (heaven help the fool who try to make it in wood). Cost around 6000 GP That rather a LOT: the weaponsmith would have to make and sell more than 600 long swords (at 10GP profit per sword) before he can pay that back! Also it is way over the cash limit for anything but a small city! 2) a traditional medieval town house: 1space worth of bedroom suite and one space of shop. Cost: easily over 5000 GP! Ok, I know we shouldn't compare to real medieval cost, but that's 100 pounds of gold! That's the definition of a king's ransom! (Ps: the biggest ransom ever paid in medieval time according to legends was for king Richard and it was 10000 marks if I remember correctly, that's 800000 sp or 80000GP) I see now why there are L20 commoners: before they can be a rutabaga farmer, they need to go and kill a dragon to have the money for the farm! :D [/QUOTE]

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