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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7127390" data-attributes="member: 20323">The reason not to do this is simplicity. Bonus Actions and Reactions are minimized to special situations/features that allow a PC (and occasionally a monster) to use them. Implementing blanket Reactions for saving throws would reintroduce one of the things that made 4e combats so long-lasting: reactive decision points that all players need to keep in mind regularly.IF a DM wanted to implement something like this, I'd simply go with a &quot;succeeds/fails by 5+&quot; threshold which I already use for ability/skill checks in my games (EDIT: I believe I saw this originally in Iron Heroes. In M&amp;M3e is referred to as &quot;Degrees of Success/Failure.&quot; Dungeon World does something similar). So...if you fail your save by 5+, then the DM can throw an extra complication like you're blasted backward and knocked prone from the fireball. And if you succeed your save by 5+, then you can choose to move behind cover within the fireball's area-of-effect (without expending movement) or something along those lines.That kind of attention to detail isn't for every game (and probably isn't for every check), but it would allow you to implement some of what&nbsp; &nbsp; [MENTION=6787650]Hemlock[/MENTION] was alluding to without needlessly complicating the game / burdening players with more to think about.The one area of design I think this could be interesting to explore is with the Rogue class (maybe the Monk too), a character concept that IMHO feels like it should have more mobility. *IF* there were some kind of limit re. saves and reactions, the Rogue is where I'd expect that limit to be broken. Like a reaction movement that allows you to (possible) dive out of an area of effect. Maybe a replacement or upgrade for Evasion. Heck, you could introduce that to the Rogue without tweaking any other rules and it would fit well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 7127390, member: 20323"] The reason not to do this is simplicity. Bonus Actions and Reactions are minimized to [I]special[/I] situations/features that allow a PC (and occasionally a monster) to use them. Implementing blanket Reactions for saving throws would reintroduce one of the things that made 4e combats so long-lasting: reactive decision points that all players need to keep in mind regularly. IF a DM wanted to implement something like this, I'd simply go with a "succeeds/fails by 5+" threshold which I already use for ability/skill checks in my games (EDIT: I believe I saw this originally in Iron Heroes. In M&M3e is referred to as "Degrees of Success/Failure." Dungeon World does something similar). So...if you fail your save by 5+, then the DM can throw an extra complication like you're blasted backward and knocked prone from the [I]fireball[/I]. And if you succeed your save by 5+, then you can choose to move behind cover within the [I]fireball's[/I] area-of-effect (without expending movement) or something along those lines. That kind of attention to detail isn't for every game (and probably isn't for every check), but it would allow you to implement some of what [MENTION=6787650]Hemlock[/MENTION] was alluding to without needlessly complicating the game / burdening players with more to think about. The one area of design I think this could be interesting to explore is with the Rogue class (maybe the Monk too), a character concept that IMHO feels like it should have more mobility. *IF* there were some kind of limit re. saves and reactions, the Rogue is where I'd expect that limit to be broken. Like a reaction movement that allows you to (possible) dive out of an area of effect. Maybe a replacement or upgrade for Evasion. Heck, you could introduce that to the Rogue without tweaking any other rules and it would fit well. [/QUOTE]

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