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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 3631841" data-attributes="member: 1356"><p>I'm a little confused on how much it should cost to use a Golem Manual, and how long it takes to create a golem using one. I'm sure these two are related. Hopefully someone here can help me out.</p><p></p><p>On the cost of using one, it's this line from the Manual's basic description that's causing problems- "The cost of the book does not include the cost of constructing the golem’s body." Is the cost of the body strictly the cost of the body itself or the cost for the whole golem?</p><p></p><p>I'll use an Iron Golem as an example as it has the clearest guidelines for these costs. Emphasis my own.</p><p></p><p>According to the "Trade Goods" table of the PHB, iron costs 1 silver a pound, so 5,000 lbs costs 500 gold. That makes the strict cost of the physical body 10,500 gp. But, I've seen it stated in various posts on various websites, that the "cost of constructing the golem’s body" (as the manual description puts it) should be the total cost to <strong><em>create</em></strong> the golem, or 80,000 gold in this case. </p><p></p><p>I don't see how that could be correct as it relates to using the Iron Golem Manual though since; if you're spending 80K to create the golem from scratch, what do you need a Golem Manual for? </p><p></p><p>But, on the other hand, if all it takes to get an Iron Golem is 35K for the manual and 10.5K for the body, why would anyone create one from scratch for almost twice the cost?!</p><p></p><p>So you see my confusion?!? I hope someone can give me some advice or a rules reference that will clear up the mess. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On a related note- assuming you get all the various costs figured out and OK'd by your DM, how long does it take to animate the golem using a golem manual? Since the manual provides the XP and all the spells (w/spell trigger activation) it would almost seem that, if you had the body on hand, it would only take a few rounds to complete the ritual and get a functioning golem. One round for each spell it takes, that completes the ritual so the book bursts into flames (another round), another round to sprinkle the ashes and you've got your golem. </p><p></p><p>Again, it seems there is a great deal of description missing from how these manuals are supposed to work. Any advice/help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated. This is likely to affect the game I'm in in the next session or two.</p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 3631841, member: 1356"] I'm a little confused on how much it should cost to use a Golem Manual, and how long it takes to create a golem using one. I'm sure these two are related. Hopefully someone here can help me out. On the cost of using one, it's this line from the Manual's basic description that's causing problems- "The cost of the book does not include the cost of constructing the golem’s body." Is the cost of the body strictly the cost of the body itself or the cost for the whole golem? I'll use an Iron Golem as an example as it has the clearest guidelines for these costs. Emphasis my own. According to the "Trade Goods" table of the PHB, iron costs 1 silver a pound, so 5,000 lbs costs 500 gold. That makes the strict cost of the physical body 10,500 gp. But, I've seen it stated in various posts on various websites, that the "cost of constructing the golem’s body" (as the manual description puts it) should be the total cost to [B][I]create[/I][/B] the golem, or 80,000 gold in this case. I don't see how that could be correct as it relates to using the Iron Golem Manual though since; if you're spending 80K to create the golem from scratch, what do you need a Golem Manual for? But, on the other hand, if all it takes to get an Iron Golem is 35K for the manual and 10.5K for the body, why would anyone create one from scratch for almost twice the cost?! So you see my confusion?!? I hope someone can give me some advice or a rules reference that will clear up the mess. :confused: On a related note- assuming you get all the various costs figured out and OK'd by your DM, how long does it take to animate the golem using a golem manual? Since the manual provides the XP and all the spells (w/spell trigger activation) it would almost seem that, if you had the body on hand, it would only take a few rounds to complete the ritual and get a functioning golem. One round for each spell it takes, that completes the ritual so the book bursts into flames (another round), another round to sprinkle the ashes and you've got your golem. Again, it seems there is a great deal of description missing from how these manuals are supposed to work. Any advice/help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated. This is likely to affect the game I'm in in the next session or two. Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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