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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3420282" data-attributes="member: 1656">A +1 addition to a weapon doesn't have a listed cost.What's the cost of a +1 addition to a masterwork longsword?  2000gp.What's the cost of a +1 addition to a +1 longsword?  6000gp.What's the cost of a +1 addition to a +1 flaming longsword?  10000gp.What's the cost of a +1 addition to a Crystal Echoblade?  We don't know.  It's not adding a +1 addition to a +1 longsword, and it's not adding a +1 addition to a +2 longsword, both of which we know the final cost of and can calculate the difference.In the first three examples, we know the initial value and we know the final value, so we can calculate the difference.  In the case of the Crystal Echoblade, we don't know the final value (it's not listed anywhere) and we don't know the difference (as shown above, it varies!), so we can't calculate either from the rules given.  We need to add a new rule before we can make a calculation.Custserv's answer gives an example where we know both the initial and final values, and demonstrates calculating the difference.  That's easy.But when they say "Flaming ability will make the weapon the equivalent of a +2 weapon", that's where I disagree.  The Crystal Echoblade isn't the equivalent of a +1 weapon; it's better than a +1 weapon.  Therefore a Flaming Crystal Echoblade isn't the equivalent of a +2 weapon; it's better than a +2 weapon.  So using the formula to determine the difference between a +1 and a +2 weapon isn't relevant.It's like saying "I want to add the Flaming ability to my +1 Shocking longsword", and being told that the +1 Shocking longsword is the equivalent of a +1 weapon, so the price is 6000gp higher.  It might have a +1 enhancement bonus, but it's not the equivalent of a +1 weapon!I disagree.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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