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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3421066" data-attributes="member: 2525">Because it's not circular, and more than three people have told you in return how it's perfectly logical and possible?&nbsp; I didn't realize we were voting on logic by popular vote here, but since you raised the issue...we win I guess, if that is the criteria.You saying it's true, over and over again, doesn't make it true.&nbsp; When two sides come to different conclusions, and one side says &quot;there is more than one reasonable position to be taken on this issue&quot; and the other side says &quot;we have found the one true position on this issue and all other positions therefore must be false&quot;, it's almost always the case that the side thinking they found the one true answer is, at best, exaggerating their position.We know the price of a +1 longsword.&nbsp; We know the price of a +2 longsword, and the price of adding a +1 bonus to a longsword that already has a +1 bonus.&nbsp; And we know the price of the echoblade special ability, because we can derive it from examining the listed price of a +1 echoblade.&nbsp; You don't even need the price of a +2 longsword for that analysis, because it's apparent on the face of the price of a +1 echoblade what the echoblade portion adds to the price.&nbsp; IT CAN BE A FIXED VALUE, NOT A VARIABLE VALUE.&nbsp; That is one reasonable way to look at this issue.It's not necessarily dependent on anything other than it's own fixed value, much like the price of adding lots of things in this game is based on a fixed value and not anything else.&nbsp; Our interpretation is implied that way by the RAW in the MIC, and it's logical to the majority of people here, and it was logical to CustServ, and the price seems pretty balanced to myself many others, and that is really the end of the story for me.Y'all can go on screaming that you have found the one true objective answer regarding this subjective question until you're blue the face.&nbsp; But for me, when folks start telling everyone else that there couldn't possibly be two reasonable answers to a rules question where everyone admits the rules are not perfectly clear on the subject, then I start to question some bigger issues than just your answer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3421066, member: 2525"] Because it's not circular, and more than three people have told you in return how it's perfectly logical and possible? I didn't realize we were voting on logic by popular vote here, but since you raised the issue...we win I guess, if that is the criteria. You saying it's true, over and over again, doesn't make it true. When two sides come to different conclusions, and one side says "there is more than one reasonable position to be taken on this issue" and the other side says "we have found the one true position on this issue and all other positions therefore must be false", it's almost always the case that the side thinking they found the one true answer is, at best, exaggerating their position. We know the price of a +1 longsword. We know the price of a +2 longsword, and the price of adding a +1 bonus to a longsword that already has a +1 bonus. And we know the price of the echoblade special ability, because we can derive it from examining the listed price of a +1 echoblade. You don't even need the price of a +2 longsword for that analysis, because it's apparent on the face of the price of a +1 echoblade what the echoblade portion adds to the price. IT CAN BE A FIXED VALUE, NOT A VARIABLE VALUE. That is one reasonable way to look at this issue. It's not necessarily dependent on anything other than it's own fixed value, much like the price of adding lots of things in this game is based on a fixed value and not anything else. Our interpretation is implied that way by the RAW in the MIC, and it's logical to the majority of people here, and it was logical to CustServ, and the price seems pretty balanced to myself many others, and that is really the end of the story for me. Y'all can go on screaming that you have found the one true objective answer regarding this subjective question until you're blue the face. But for me, when folks start telling everyone else that there couldn't possibly be two reasonable answers to a rules question where everyone admits the rules are not perfectly clear on the subject, then I start to question some bigger issues than just your answer. [/QUOTE]

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