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<blockquote data-quote="gnfnrf" data-source="post: 3427935" data-attributes="member: 2373">Actually, as far as I can tell, no.I think you can't use it at all.&nbsp; But it doesn't say.Except it does, because that's what the example says.This is backwards.&nbsp; We know how the axe is handled, because the book tells us.&nbsp; If you think I handled the Holy Avenger wrong, that's fine.&nbsp; I don't hold strictly to my evaluation.&nbsp; (The difference as I see it is in the wording.&nbsp; The holy avenger says what it is, then what it is for a paladin.&nbsp; The axe just says what it is for those alignments.)But, at worst here, you've shown we don't know how to handle the Holy Avenger, and by extention, the Dwarven Thrower and the Sword of the Planes (and possibly one or two other items we haven't mentioned).&nbsp; The Crystal Echoblade has no such problems, nor do most specific weapons.&nbsp; Just because it's not clear how to apply the general rule in a few cases doesn't mean you can reject the general rule entirely.--gnfnrf</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gnfnrf, post: 3427935, member: 2373"] Actually, as far as I can tell, no. I think you can't use it at all. But it doesn't say. Except it does, because that's what the example says. This is backwards. We know how the axe is handled, because the book tells us. If you think I handled the Holy Avenger wrong, that's fine. I don't hold strictly to my evaluation. (The difference as I see it is in the wording. The holy avenger says what it is, then what it is for a paladin. The axe just says what it is for those alignments.) But, at worst here, you've shown we don't know how to handle the Holy Avenger, and by extention, the Dwarven Thrower and the Sword of the Planes (and possibly one or two other items we haven't mentioned). The Crystal Echoblade has no such problems, nor do most specific weapons. Just because it's not clear how to apply the general rule in a few cases doesn't mean you can reject the general rule entirely. -- gnfnrf [/QUOTE]

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