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<blockquote data-quote="fearsomepirate" data-source="post: 8220119" data-attributes="member: 7021420">Unspoken assumptions are still assumptions. If you are calculating your damage against a monster, you are assuming you hit it, regardless of whether you say, out loud, &quot;I assume a hit.&quot;No, it really doesn't. People make mistakes. I made a mistake, admitted it when you pointed it out, and you then proved yourself utterly incapable of moving on to discuss anything else, because what you want isn't to be right (I admitted you were right; a pure Sorc can do a nova once per day that a Sorlock can't quite match); what you want is for your white-room nova analysis against a defenseless hit point blob to end discussion. You're not getting that, and it's not because I &quot;refuse to admit I'm wrong,&quot; it's because I think that sort of analysis is fundamentally uninformative.&nbsp; My main observations about the Sorlock can be condensed to:1. EB is good enough that fewer resources spent than a pure Sorc (2x better than a cantrip at base, damages like a 4th-level spell when you spend a 1st-level slot), meaning metamagic and good spells are more readily available, more often.2. Far more spell resources than a pure Warlock, plus CON proficiency, basically never has to choose between bringing Hex back up or being able to cast Banish/Fireball/etc again, i.e. can be as free with his spell spending as a normal Sorc while still doing at-will damage like a normal Warlock.The once-per-day nova in the white room does not affect this picture in any way whatsoever.Has the DM been generous or stingy with magic items for the Sorlock?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fearsomepirate, post: 8220119, member: 7021420"] Unspoken assumptions are still assumptions. If you are calculating your damage against a monster, you are assuming you hit it, regardless of whether you say, out loud, "I assume a hit." No, it really doesn't. People make mistakes. I made a mistake, admitted it when you pointed it out, and you then proved yourself utterly incapable of moving on to discuss anything else, because what you want isn't to be right (I admitted you were right; a pure Sorc can do a nova once per day that a Sorlock can't quite match); what you want is for your white-room nova analysis against a defenseless hit point blob to end discussion. You're not getting that, and it's not because I "refuse to admit I'm wrong," it's because I think that sort of analysis is fundamentally uninformative. My main observations about the Sorlock can be condensed to: 1. EB is good enough that fewer resources spent than a pure Sorc (2x better than a cantrip at base, damages like a 4th-level spell when you spend a 1st-level slot), meaning metamagic and good spells are more readily available, more often. 2. Far more spell resources than a pure Warlock, plus CON proficiency, basically never has to choose between bringing Hex back up or being able to cast Banish/Fireball/etc again, i.e. can be as free with his spell spending as a normal Sorc while still doing at-will damage like a normal Warlock. The once-per-day nova in the white room does not affect this picture in any way whatsoever. Has the DM been generous or stingy with magic items for the Sorlock? [/QUOTE]

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