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Could Mirage Arcana be used to cause someone to drown themselves?
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<blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 4239515" data-attributes="member: 12966"><p>I also think the OP's use of the spell is reasonable (and I even read all four pages of this thread!).</p><p></p><p>But if the aboleth doesn't want air breathers to get a Will save (or doesn't want them to have much of a bonus), the illusion of air should be placed so that the character is still mostly under water.</p><p></p><p>For example, as a character enters the water, they will feel resistance.  Define the illusion so that the characters think the water level is about 1 foot lower than it really is.  They will feel bouyant, but they expect to because they're 80% under water.  They will feel resistance to movement, but they expect to.  And so on.  As they move towards the surface and their head breaks into the (illusionary) air, they'll take a deep breath -- full of water!</p><p></p><p>I think that's a perfectly reasonable use of the spell.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I wouldn't do it to my players unless they knew enough about aboleths to know of this ability and have heard stories about how aboleths might use this spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azhrei_fje, post: 4239515, member: 12966"] I also think the OP's use of the spell is reasonable (and I even read all four pages of this thread!). But if the aboleth doesn't want air breathers to get a Will save (or doesn't want them to have much of a bonus), the illusion of air should be placed so that the character is still mostly under water. For example, as a character enters the water, they will feel resistance. Define the illusion so that the characters think the water level is about 1 foot lower than it really is. They will feel bouyant, but they expect to because they're 80% under water. They will feel resistance to movement, but they expect to. And so on. As they move towards the surface and their head breaks into the (illusionary) air, they'll take a deep breath -- full of water! I think that's a perfectly reasonable use of the spell. Having said that, I wouldn't do it to my players unless they knew enough about aboleths to know of this ability and have heard stories about how aboleths might use this spell. [/QUOTE]
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