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<blockquote data-quote="JudgeMonroe" data-source="post: 6805491" data-attributes="member: 6811685"><p>As far as I can tell, there are no domains in the SRD that weren't present in the PHB; I don't know what FRCS domains you are thinking of.</p><p></p><p>Not that it matters; really Wizards got off to a good start with the SRD but it was effectively frozen once revised to 3.5 -- epics, divine, and psionics were added to the SRD even though the associated books for those rules were not themselves Open; MM2 included a couple of pages of open content because they recycled 3rd party monsters.</p><p></p><p>The point is still that fundamentally the development of 3.5 remained closed, and Wizards produced a phenomenal amount of content for the game that was never added to the SRD or quietly Opened like UA. In contrast, I don't think Paizo has published so much as a stat block without opening it (hyperbole, folks). It follows that Paizo knows they can't put the genie back in the bottle -- if they alienated their fanbase with Pathfinder 2 (or Path5nder) someone can come in and do what they did to Wizards in the first place, except with the entire Pathfinder ruleset, no crunch held back, and pick right up where Paizo left off. I think that's an incredible incentive to keep themselves honest.</p><p></p><p>The tipping point for Paizo will be when the value of their IP (iconic characters, Golarion, adventure paths) exceeds that of the *rules*. As I mentioned earlier, they've done a good job of double-dipping on a lot of their IP, but they have yet to crack the digital domain (Pathfinder Online being considered a loss until further notice). The day may come where that tipping point is reached, and I think it's only then they'd make any substantial shift to the rules of their tabletop game, and even then there's no particular reason to echo the DND5 rules in particular.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JudgeMonroe, post: 6805491, member: 6811685"] As far as I can tell, there are no domains in the SRD that weren't present in the PHB; I don't know what FRCS domains you are thinking of. Not that it matters; really Wizards got off to a good start with the SRD but it was effectively frozen once revised to 3.5 -- epics, divine, and psionics were added to the SRD even though the associated books for those rules were not themselves Open; MM2 included a couple of pages of open content because they recycled 3rd party monsters. The point is still that fundamentally the development of 3.5 remained closed, and Wizards produced a phenomenal amount of content for the game that was never added to the SRD or quietly Opened like UA. In contrast, I don't think Paizo has published so much as a stat block without opening it (hyperbole, folks). It follows that Paizo knows they can't put the genie back in the bottle -- if they alienated their fanbase with Pathfinder 2 (or Path5nder) someone can come in and do what they did to Wizards in the first place, except with the entire Pathfinder ruleset, no crunch held back, and pick right up where Paizo left off. I think that's an incredible incentive to keep themselves honest. The tipping point for Paizo will be when the value of their IP (iconic characters, Golarion, adventure paths) exceeds that of the *rules*. As I mentioned earlier, they've done a good job of double-dipping on a lot of their IP, but they have yet to crack the digital domain (Pathfinder Online being considered a loss until further notice). The day may come where that tipping point is reached, and I think it's only then they'd make any substantial shift to the rules of their tabletop game, and even then there's no particular reason to echo the DND5 rules in particular. [/QUOTE]
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