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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5674579" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>I think the point of the statement he made about Pathfinder even hoping to suceed is the name value.</p><p></p><p>D&D is so recognizable at this point, even when referencing who could be king of the RPG pile in this very thread, D&D is the name referred to.</p><p></p><p>D&D became so famous/notorious NOT from 3e, though many fans want 3e to be the thing that made D&D famous (hint, it wasn't, in fact overall it wasn't even a whimper comparatively...) it was the early 80s when it became a FAD that made it explode in popularity. It's sort of like Pokemon, what comes to mind of the average person when you mention it. It was a FAD that exploded with popularity and made the game (whether Pokemon or D&D) part of the public consciousness.</p><p></p><p>Both Fads faded.</p><p></p><p>I think Pathfinder can easily replace D&D as king of the Dirt pile of RPGs...however to get the name recognition where young boys and girls think...hey...that sounds interesting...I want to find out more about D&D...it's going to need an event similar to what happened to D&D in the 80s. It doesn't have to be a FAD, it could be something else, but that's what it's going to need to get the NAME RECOGNITION that D&D has.</p><p></p><p>I think in the long run, a slow build up to be the popular item is more reliable then the quick fix fad route. IF Pathfinder Basic makes it's way into the general stores (like Toys R' US, or even better WALMART) AND people actually buy it, I could see it slowly rising in popularity where D&D is eventually forgotten and Pathfinder replaces it.</p><p></p><p>In Video game console speak...it would sort of be the difference between Sony Playstation and the Wii. The Wii I think is a fad...and eventually everyone will remember it, but the Wii itself will fade into oblivious. Sony continues to use the Playstation name...as it's a system name that's built itself up over the years. Even with the PS3 (which early on people called a failure, but is now showing it's strength) it's a brand which is reliably selling.</p><p></p><p>For sustainment you want a reliable seller more than the fad.</p><p></p><p>Just my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5674579, member: 4348"] I think the point of the statement he made about Pathfinder even hoping to suceed is the name value. D&D is so recognizable at this point, even when referencing who could be king of the RPG pile in this very thread, D&D is the name referred to. D&D became so famous/notorious NOT from 3e, though many fans want 3e to be the thing that made D&D famous (hint, it wasn't, in fact overall it wasn't even a whimper comparatively...) it was the early 80s when it became a FAD that made it explode in popularity. It's sort of like Pokemon, what comes to mind of the average person when you mention it. It was a FAD that exploded with popularity and made the game (whether Pokemon or D&D) part of the public consciousness. Both Fads faded. I think Pathfinder can easily replace D&D as king of the Dirt pile of RPGs...however to get the name recognition where young boys and girls think...hey...that sounds interesting...I want to find out more about D&D...it's going to need an event similar to what happened to D&D in the 80s. It doesn't have to be a FAD, it could be something else, but that's what it's going to need to get the NAME RECOGNITION that D&D has. I think in the long run, a slow build up to be the popular item is more reliable then the quick fix fad route. IF Pathfinder Basic makes it's way into the general stores (like Toys R' US, or even better WALMART) AND people actually buy it, I could see it slowly rising in popularity where D&D is eventually forgotten and Pathfinder replaces it. In Video game console speak...it would sort of be the difference between Sony Playstation and the Wii. The Wii I think is a fad...and eventually everyone will remember it, but the Wii itself will fade into oblivious. Sony continues to use the Playstation name...as it's a system name that's built itself up over the years. Even with the PS3 (which early on people called a failure, but is now showing it's strength) it's a brand which is reliably selling. For sustainment you want a reliable seller more than the fad. Just my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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