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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IronWolf" data-source="post: 5677037" data-attributes="member: 21076">Certainly seems like a problem to me. Two years of sweeping the ENnies with their products, increasing ICv2 numbers, reasonable rankings at Amazon and numerous anecdotal reports from various forums and blog postings. While you might not want to agree that they are doing better than 4e, there is certainly an indication that they are only getting stronger over the course of the past 2 years or so.While the Core Rulebook was basically a reprinting of 3.x with some improvements or changes, the APG was a shift of adding the Pathfinder flavor to things. A subtle shift, but a shift that many, many people appear to be happy with.And they don't need to make everyone happy. It seems certain they won't be making you happy. That's cool! It seems you enjoy 4e, so we both get to play a system we enjoy - choice is a wonderful thing and not an indicator that we need to tear the system we don't prefer down or try to announce they are doing it wrong.This actually seems like something that if I were a big WotC fan I would find concerning.I trust you weigh these same arguments against Wizard's art as well, correct? Just in a brief visit to the site it was easy to find examples of female adventurer's in mid-riff exposed armor or shaped vestments. Fantasy art depictions of female characters is not an issue unique to Paizo.I will refrain from engaging in debate with anecdotal evidence as I think we can both agree what you see in your area compared to what I see in mine is apt to be different and not representative of any real trend.But the Beginner Box isn't the way followed by a statement of RPGs need to become more accessible to people? I am confused by that statement. How does the Beginner Box not make an attempt at making the game more accessible to someone new to it?Paizo is ignoring sponsored play? Pathfinder Society is very well supported and present at game shops across the land and at any decent sized convention one is apt to go to. Can't make a local game or convention? There are avenues for Pathfinder Society play via VTT or PbP if those fit your availability better. Paizo puts out scenarios each month of organized play and recently release a trio of scenarios designed *just* for the person new to organized play and they are available for free download.Frankly I think basing bringing new people to the hobby through sponsored play is a poor attempt, or at least shouldn't be one's only attempt at bringing new people to the hobby. Say I'm 12 - how exactly am I supposed to get myself to the local gaming shop every week to play reliably? And even if I can, how many parents are going to just drop me off for a few hours to play with folks at a gaming store? Sure some will, but it seems to me we've self-selected our number of players that meet that criteria down.Something that lowers the barrier like Beginner Boxes stand to do much better for new players. They can pick the box up and play with their local friends - at school lunch, after school, during the summer with their friends that are right next door.Your experience cannot necessarily be applied to the world at whole. I have not found the GM prep time for Pathfinder to be deterimental to the system. It simply isn't that difficult to prep for. Now I realize some might find it more time consuming, so I won't counter your argument with "Well, I've GM'ed Pathfinder and found prep to be easy, so it is easy for everyone to prep for."Again - Pathfinder Society. The biggest difference I can see is that Pathfinder Society scenarios are more the 4 to 5 hour length whereas Encounters is a shorter bite of time, right? Paizo has toyed with the idea of PFS quests that also play in a shorter period of time. These are still new and finding their place though in my opinion.</blockquote>

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