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<blockquote data-quote="Pentius" data-source="post: 5677868" data-attributes="member: 6676736">It's only unnecessary if you already know what you're doing.&nbsp; I totally understand if you decide to play a Cleric, you don't want someone taking five minutes trying to explain the concept of a Leader.&nbsp; We're old hats, we know how to play Clerics.&nbsp; We'll worship a god, we'll heal and buff some people.&nbsp; The dead start walking around, we'll be the guy you call.&nbsp; We get it.But they're helpful if you don't know what you're doing.&nbsp; For example, it took me a long time, and actually playing one, to get a handle on what the 3.5 Bard was supposed to be able to do.&nbsp; I'm still not entirely confident that I know.&nbsp; The answers I got were along the lines of &quot;You'll be a great fifth man!&quot; and &quot;You can do a little bit of everything!&quot; which didn't help me, really.&nbsp; But in 4e, I can look at the Bard, and it says right at the start, &quot;Leader&quot;.&nbsp; Well, I get the concept of a Leader, so now when I'm reading the bard mechanic stuff, I can get a better handle on how it was meant to be used, and where the Bard is intended to fit into the party.&nbsp; I get what WotC was trying to do.&nbsp; That's all the roles are, really.&nbsp; Just shorthand for &quot;We designed this class to be good at X.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pentius, post: 5677868, member: 6676736"] It's only unnecessary if you already know what you're doing. I totally understand if you decide to play a Cleric, you don't want someone taking five minutes trying to explain the concept of a Leader. We're old hats, we know how to play Clerics. We'll worship a god, we'll heal and buff some people. The dead start walking around, we'll be the guy you call. We get it. But they're helpful if you don't know what you're doing. For example, it took me a long time, and actually playing one, to get a handle on what the 3.5 Bard was supposed to be able to do. I'm still not entirely confident that I know. The answers I got were along the lines of "You'll be a great fifth man!" and "You can do a little bit of everything!" which didn't help me, really. But in 4e, I can look at the Bard, and it says right at the start, "Leader". Well, I get the concept of a Leader, so now when I'm reading the bard mechanic stuff, I can get a better handle on how it was meant to be used, and where the Bard is intended to fit into the party. I get what WotC was trying to do. That's all the roles are, really. Just shorthand for "We designed this class to be good at X." [/QUOTE]

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