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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5682918" data-attributes="member: 22779">Wow, just come out swinging huh?My point is, as Umbran also pointed out, is that the idea of roles hardly originate in MMO's.  People point to the existence of roles in 4e as if that clearly shows that 4e is just a tabletop MMO.  The fact of the matter is, roles in team play have been recognized for quite a lot longer than the mid(ish) 90's when MMO's start making the scene.  The only thing MMO's have done, perhaps, is codified the language, but, the concepts exist because they appear in virtually any group fiction that has a fair bit of physical conflict.  You can look at quite a few genre works in the light of the 4 roles and they do fit pretty well.  Not all mind you.  But, more than a few.Heck, even the original three classes mapped onto roles - infantry, artillery, medic.  The language used to describe the roles may have evolved some in the last thirty years or so, but, the baseline has existed for much, much longer than MMO's.For you it's a bug, for 4e fans, I'm thinking battlefield mobility is a feature.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Different strokes most definitely.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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