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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3314260" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey Cam matey! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I have my moments! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />How are they not? What are you trying to say...that no one wants D&D simpler?...that no one wants D&D quicker?...that no one wants D&D wth less book-keeping?...of course there are people that these facets appeal to. You can claim that not all of my points appeal to everyone, but you can't appeal to all of the people all of the time. No possible 4th Edition will appeal to all existing gamers.  So all you can do is try and make it attract as many people as possible.Therefore your argument that every facet has to appeal to every gamer is simply illogical.Wizards problem is that they are in a position now where they have to create something new, but no matter what they do its going to alienate a large amount of existing gamers. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away either.Its like burying your head in the sand.</blockquote>