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Message: <blockquote data-quote="crazy_cat" data-source="post: 3320765" data-attributes="member: 30061">QFT. I think <s>most</s> many ENWorlders had agreed on this by about the beginning of page 2 of this thread.We're now on page 7 - and over a third of the total posts are by Upper_Krust basically refusing to accept that anybody who disagrees with the basic premise of 4e as a board game with cards and minis could be in any way making a valid point, no matter how they structure their argument.This despite the fact that less than 4% or respondants to the poll agree with the idea, and the fact that there is actually no evidence whatsoever being produced to back the claim that 4e won't sell if it is simply a PnP game - which seems to be the central premise behind hybridising the game beyond all recognition in an attempt to make it mainstream.</blockquote>