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Could this be the future format of 4th Edition D&D?
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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3320858" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey llamatron2000! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>...you mean its not just me?</p><p></p><p>Are you one of the 'dirty dozen' supporting the idea? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I have been thinking is 36 boxed sets:</p><p></p><p>6 x 3 (18) Main sets:</p><p></p><p>Dragons (Red Box)</p><p>Pirates (Blue Box)</p><p>Dinosaurs (Green Box)</p><p>Vampires (Black Box)</p><p>(Frost) Giants (White Box)</p><p>Mummies (Gold Box)</p><p></p><p>Each would have a Deluxe Boxed Set ($75 with Gargantuan model) and Super-deluxe Boxed set ($100 with Colossal Model). These would be the six strongest themes. The Deluxe set would be indirectly for levels 13-24 (mid-level in terms of the system I propose), while the Super-Deluxe set would be for levels 25-36 (high-level).</p><p></p><p>So the Dragon set might start out with orcs as the mooks, the deluxe set might have Fire Giants as the central mooks, while the super deluxe set might have the Tiamat (Colossal) model and have devils as the mooks.</p><p></p><p>Whereas the Dinosaur boxed set might start with an Isle of Dread scenario type progressing to the super deluxe set with the Tarrasque (colossal) model and showdown with Demogorgon.</p><p></p><p>The second tier (low-level) could be class/structure based:</p><p></p><p>Wizards/Tower/Magic of Incarnum~Tome of Magic~Complete Arcane</p><p>Knights/Castle/Tome of Battle~Complete Warrior</p><p>Thieves/Guild and Tavern/Complete Adventurer</p><p>Clerics/Temple/Complete Divine</p><p>Ninjas~Monks~Samurai~Wu-Jen etc./Fortress-Monastery/Oriental Adventures</p><p>Psions/Spelljammer Spaceship/'Aliens'/Mind Flayers/'Steel' Caverns/Psionics</p><p></p><p>The third tier (mid-level) would have animal/race/location themes:</p><p></p><p>Snakes/Yuan-Ti/Jungle</p><p>Spiders/Drow/Caverns</p><p>Rats/Wererats/Sewers</p><p>Frogs/Bullywugs/Swamp</p><p>Bulls/Minotaurs/Underground Maze</p><p>Robots/Warforged/Factory?</p><p></p><p>The fourth tier (high-level) might be planar based:</p><p></p><p>Astral/Githyanki</p><p>Nirvana/Inevitables or Formians (or both)</p><p>Limbo/Slaad</p><p>Gray Waste/Daemons</p><p>Hells/Devils</p><p>Abyss/Demons</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Agreed. However miniatures do turn a significant profit (Ryan Dancey commented they were are larger piece of the fantasy gaming market than RPG books) so the cost between producing a boxed set and a hardback can't be that ridiculous. I'd guess maybe your profits would be halved or at worse a third. But if you entered the mainstream market you might sell 5 or 10 times as many.</p><p></p><p>But that said, just test the water with the six main boxed sets first (conservatively limiting the numbers produced at first). If those are popular expand and if not, you have lost nothing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see the stigmatism of being seen buying a D&D boxed set over being seen buying a D&D Hardback making a difference. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3320858, member: 326"] Hey llamatron2000! :) ...you mean its not just me? Are you one of the 'dirty dozen' supporting the idea? :D What I have been thinking is 36 boxed sets: 6 x 3 (18) Main sets: Dragons (Red Box) Pirates (Blue Box) Dinosaurs (Green Box) Vampires (Black Box) (Frost) Giants (White Box) Mummies (Gold Box) Each would have a Deluxe Boxed Set ($75 with Gargantuan model) and Super-deluxe Boxed set ($100 with Colossal Model). These would be the six strongest themes. The Deluxe set would be indirectly for levels 13-24 (mid-level in terms of the system I propose), while the Super-Deluxe set would be for levels 25-36 (high-level). So the Dragon set might start out with orcs as the mooks, the deluxe set might have Fire Giants as the central mooks, while the super deluxe set might have the Tiamat (Colossal) model and have devils as the mooks. Whereas the Dinosaur boxed set might start with an Isle of Dread scenario type progressing to the super deluxe set with the Tarrasque (colossal) model and showdown with Demogorgon. The second tier (low-level) could be class/structure based: Wizards/Tower/Magic of Incarnum~Tome of Magic~Complete Arcane Knights/Castle/Tome of Battle~Complete Warrior Thieves/Guild and Tavern/Complete Adventurer Clerics/Temple/Complete Divine Ninjas~Monks~Samurai~Wu-Jen etc./Fortress-Monastery/Oriental Adventures Psions/Spelljammer Spaceship/'Aliens'/Mind Flayers/'Steel' Caverns/Psionics The third tier (mid-level) would have animal/race/location themes: Snakes/Yuan-Ti/Jungle Spiders/Drow/Caverns Rats/Wererats/Sewers Frogs/Bullywugs/Swamp Bulls/Minotaurs/Underground Maze Robots/Warforged/Factory? The fourth tier (high-level) might be planar based: Astral/Githyanki Nirvana/Inevitables or Formians (or both) Limbo/Slaad Gray Waste/Daemons Hells/Devils Abyss/Demons Agreed. However miniatures do turn a significant profit (Ryan Dancey commented they were are larger piece of the fantasy gaming market than RPG books) so the cost between producing a boxed set and a hardback can't be that ridiculous. I'd guess maybe your profits would be halved or at worse a third. But if you entered the mainstream market you might sell 5 or 10 times as many. But that said, just test the water with the six main boxed sets first (conservatively limiting the numbers produced at first). If those are popular expand and if not, you have lost nothing. I don't see the stigmatism of being seen buying a D&D boxed set over being seen buying a D&D Hardback making a difference. ;) [/QUOTE]
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