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<blockquote data-quote="ElterAgo" data-source="post: 7588481" data-attributes="member: 6972046"><p>Would like some ideas and suggestions for the future career of my warlock. Here is what he currently is at level 3. The GM will allow us to do some retcon of the build.</p><p> </p><p>Tiefling, Warlock 3, Pack of the Tome, The Great Old One, Agonizing Blast, Book of Ancient Secrets, Repelling Blast</p><p>Str 8, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 9, Cha 17</p><p>Spells: Eldritch Blast, Minor Illusion, Guidance, Mending, Resistance, Thaumaturgy, Dissonant Whispers, Tasha’s Hideous Laughter, Hex, Hellish Rebuke, Armor of Agathys, Shatter</p><p> </p><p>I had originally envisioned him as primary a debuff caster, secondary a blaster, and tertiary a backup face character for social interactions. In actual play as his personally more fully develops, that has altered somewhat. While the debuff caster and blaster aspect have been about as reasonably successful as could be expected at our level, those have become secondary. He has been the primary face character (with a strong focus on pathological liar and con artist). He has more often and more effectively been talking his way around encounters and/or creating a distraction.</p><p>As such, I’m finding myself wanting to have a few more skill and tool proficiencies than are usual.</p><p>I would like to be expert in the use of disguise kit, deception, persuasion, sleight of hand, and stealth at a minimum. However intimidate, thieves’ tools, insight, perception, and investigation would also be extremely useful for the situations I’m putting myself into.</p><p> </p><p>I’ve been looking into some of the possibilities. Obviously I can’t do all of them. I only have the Player’s Handbook and GM’s Guide so far. Was planning on another book or two fairly soon. Definitely the Monster Manual and maybe Xanthar’s Guide to Everything.</p><p> </p><p>(I’m fairly new to 5thEd so correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.)</p><p>Multiclassing with a level of bard - 4 bard spells known, 2 slots of 1[SUP]st[/SUP] level each day, a skill proficiency, plus bardic inspiration.</p><p>Multiclassing with a level of rogue - thieves’ tools, a skill proficiency, expertise with 2 skills, d6 sneak attack (does this work with Eldritch Blast), Thieves’ Cant</p><p>Feat Actor – Cha +1, advantage on deception and performance when trying to pass myself as another person, and mimic speech</p><p>Feat Lucky – 3 luck points for a reroll each day</p><p>Feat Observant – Wis +1, read lips, +5 to passive perception, +5 to passive investigation</p><p>Feat Skilled – prof with 3 skills and/or tools</p><p>Amulet of Proof Against Detection and Location -</p><p>Ring of Mind Shielding -</p><p>Gloves of Thievery -</p><p>Spell Disguise Self – duration is pretty short though</p><p>Cantrip Friendship – not bad except duration is short and then they are pissed</p><p>Spell Charm Person – good one</p><p> </p><p>Are there other feats, spells, or magic items that give proficiency and/or bonuses to these type of activities?</p><p>Suggestions on which I should prioritize or ignore?</p><p>Do some work better, worse, or at least different than might be expected?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ElterAgo, post: 7588481, member: 6972046"] Would like some ideas and suggestions for the future career of my warlock. Here is what he currently is at level 3. The GM will allow us to do some retcon of the build. Tiefling, Warlock 3, Pack of the Tome, The Great Old One, Agonizing Blast, Book of Ancient Secrets, Repelling Blast Str 8, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 9, Cha 17 Spells: Eldritch Blast, Minor Illusion, Guidance, Mending, Resistance, Thaumaturgy, Dissonant Whispers, Tasha’s Hideous Laughter, Hex, Hellish Rebuke, Armor of Agathys, Shatter I had originally envisioned him as primary a debuff caster, secondary a blaster, and tertiary a backup face character for social interactions. In actual play as his personally more fully develops, that has altered somewhat. While the debuff caster and blaster aspect have been about as reasonably successful as could be expected at our level, those have become secondary. He has been the primary face character (with a strong focus on pathological liar and con artist). He has more often and more effectively been talking his way around encounters and/or creating a distraction. As such, I’m finding myself wanting to have a few more skill and tool proficiencies than are usual. I would like to be expert in the use of disguise kit, deception, persuasion, sleight of hand, and stealth at a minimum. However intimidate, thieves’ tools, insight, perception, and investigation would also be extremely useful for the situations I’m putting myself into. I’ve been looking into some of the possibilities. Obviously I can’t do all of them. I only have the Player’s Handbook and GM’s Guide so far. Was planning on another book or two fairly soon. Definitely the Monster Manual and maybe Xanthar’s Guide to Everything. (I’m fairly new to 5thEd so correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.) Multiclassing with a level of bard - 4 bard spells known, 2 slots of 1[SUP]st[/SUP] level each day, a skill proficiency, plus bardic inspiration. Multiclassing with a level of rogue - thieves’ tools, a skill proficiency, expertise with 2 skills, d6 sneak attack (does this work with Eldritch Blast), Thieves’ Cant Feat Actor – Cha +1, advantage on deception and performance when trying to pass myself as another person, and mimic speech Feat Lucky – 3 luck points for a reroll each day Feat Observant – Wis +1, read lips, +5 to passive perception, +5 to passive investigation Feat Skilled – prof with 3 skills and/or tools Amulet of Proof Against Detection and Location - Ring of Mind Shielding - Gloves of Thievery - Spell Disguise Self – duration is pretty short though Cantrip Friendship – not bad except duration is short and then they are pissed Spell Charm Person – good one Are there other feats, spells, or magic items that give proficiency and/or bonuses to these type of activities? Suggestions on which I should prioritize or ignore? Do some work better, worse, or at least different than might be expected? [/QUOTE]
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