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<blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 5637696" data-attributes="member: 5948"><p>I'm inclined to go with the majority and say 'no' here. Even if WotC do come up with a brilliant and awesome 5e, then there will be people who'll despise it, and they'll be the people making the most noise.</p><p></p><p>And the same goes for Paizo. The thing with D&D being the 600lb gorilla in the fantasy RPG market for so long is that basically everyone played it, even if they preferred different game styles or emphasised different aspects of the whole deal. Your D&D experience != my D&D experience, basically.</p><p></p><p>4e took a step in a particular direction, favouring one play style over others. This is not a bad thing - 3e did this too. But the difference was that when 4e came along, the OGL meant Pathfinder was able to come along, favouring a different play style but still recognisably being D&D. I think we've seen the last of a unified D&D audience, to be honest.</p><p></p><p>I still reckon Paizo will need to bring out Pathfinder 2nd ed at some point in time, making some deep changes to the system to really address the fundamentally broken bits of high level d20 play (it's a bit revealing imho that even Paizo doesn't try to get PCs to 20th level in their adventure paths as a matter of course). When they do, I think they'll cop a fair bit of the same heat that WotC are copping with the 5e recon they're doing at the moment. Though probably not QUITE as much - WotC is still (for a number of reasons, of which not all are rubbish) the company a lot of gamers love to hate, and Paizo has a lot of community goodwill stored up. </p><p></p><p>And I play 3.5e and buy Pathfinder stuff, for what it's worth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="humble minion, post: 5637696, member: 5948"] I'm inclined to go with the majority and say 'no' here. Even if WotC do come up with a brilliant and awesome 5e, then there will be people who'll despise it, and they'll be the people making the most noise. And the same goes for Paizo. The thing with D&D being the 600lb gorilla in the fantasy RPG market for so long is that basically everyone played it, even if they preferred different game styles or emphasised different aspects of the whole deal. Your D&D experience != my D&D experience, basically. 4e took a step in a particular direction, favouring one play style over others. This is not a bad thing - 3e did this too. But the difference was that when 4e came along, the OGL meant Pathfinder was able to come along, favouring a different play style but still recognisably being D&D. I think we've seen the last of a unified D&D audience, to be honest. I still reckon Paizo will need to bring out Pathfinder 2nd ed at some point in time, making some deep changes to the system to really address the fundamentally broken bits of high level d20 play (it's a bit revealing imho that even Paizo doesn't try to get PCs to 20th level in their adventure paths as a matter of course). When they do, I think they'll cop a fair bit of the same heat that WotC are copping with the 5e recon they're doing at the moment. Though probably not QUITE as much - WotC is still (for a number of reasons, of which not all are rubbish) the company a lot of gamers love to hate, and Paizo has a lot of community goodwill stored up. And I play 3.5e and buy Pathfinder stuff, for what it's worth. [/QUOTE]
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