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<blockquote data-quote="Bleys Icefalcon" data-source="post: 5644944" data-attributes="member: 6670542">Somehow I would see the parent company of WoTC vigorously approving 5th Edition - they've made it vividly clear, they are not concerned with a quality product - unless of course said product is profitable.&nbsp; Collectors and those who simply have to have the newest, shiniest of everything will flock to the stores for 5e, even if 5e is 200 pages of furry softporn.&nbsp; It would sell, regardless of what's inside the covers.&nbsp; Selling = profit, which is all that matters to them.Granted TSR made a muddy mess at the end, and WoTC tried to fix things, and in many cases succeeded - but it simply got away from them with 3.5.&nbsp; Too much power, too little balance.&nbsp; 4e is a thoughtful detailed, balanced system, unfortunately, it's not really DnD - not to those of us that have bled their way through all of the versions since even before there was any official system.&nbsp; It's too far away from, and turns it's back on the Gygaxian way of play - where the game is a mystery to the players.&nbsp; That's DnD.&nbsp; The players get posed to them a mystery.&nbsp; They don't get to see behind the screens.&nbsp; They don't get to read up on the monsters.&nbsp; They don't get to see the DMs rolls.&nbsp; They don't get too, as then there'd be little wonder, and less challenge.&nbsp; If I know there are trolls in the next room, and I know the trolls will do nothing until I open the door, no matter what, then I have time to ride my pony back to town and concoct a dozen or so Molitov Cocktails, ride my way back, head to that door, light them and toss them in, firmly shutting and blocking the door with the shoring timber I picked up in town while I was at it.Conversely, if I don't know there are trolls on the other side of the door, then I react REALISTICALLY when I find out - everyone having a kumbuyah session and mutually running the game is all well and good, but it ain't DnD.5e will be great if we get back to DnD the way it was designed and envisioned, but won't do anything to make the old school purists happy if it continues to drift away from the it's founding paradyme.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bleys Icefalcon, post: 5644944, member: 6670542"] Somehow I would see the parent company of WoTC vigorously approving 5th Edition - they've made it vividly clear, they are not concerned with a quality product - unless of course said product is profitable. Collectors and those who simply have to have the newest, shiniest of everything will flock to the stores for 5e, even if 5e is 200 pages of furry softporn. It would sell, regardless of what's inside the covers. Selling = profit, which is all that matters to them. Granted TSR made a muddy mess at the end, and WoTC tried to fix things, and in many cases succeeded - but it simply got away from them with 3.5. Too much power, too little balance. 4e is a thoughtful detailed, balanced system, unfortunately, it's not really DnD - not to those of us that have bled their way through all of the versions since even before there was any official system. It's too far away from, and turns it's back on the Gygaxian way of play - where the game is a mystery to the players. That's DnD. The players get posed to them a mystery. They don't get to see behind the screens. They don't get to read up on the monsters. They don't get to see the DMs rolls. They don't get too, as then there'd be little wonder, and less challenge. If I know there are trolls in the next room, and I know the trolls will do nothing until I open the door, no matter what, then I have time to ride my pony back to town and concoct a dozen or so Molitov Cocktails, ride my way back, head to that door, light them and toss them in, firmly shutting and blocking the door with the shoring timber I picked up in town while I was at it. Conversely, if I don't know there are trolls on the other side of the door, then I react REALISTICALLY when I find out - everyone having a kumbuyah session and mutually running the game is all well and good, but it ain't DnD. 5e will be great if we get back to DnD the way it was designed and envisioned, but won't do anything to make the old school purists happy if it continues to drift away from the it's founding paradyme. [/QUOTE]

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