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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 5646651" data-attributes="member: 17106">This one's been sitting around awhile, but it's still bugging me. I agree that the rules in play are the substance here, but presentation is important. If I read a scientific paper that draws meaningful conclusions from solid evidence, but which has grammatical errors, confusing charts, or an inappropriate tone, the latter points will probably define my opinion of that paper. Similarly, when I eat out, presentation greatly affects the experience of my meal and if I have a date, that person's appearance affects my opinion of them.Similarly, if WotC had put out a completely different set of rules with the same artistic design on their books (and the same amount of errata) I wouldn't have bought them on that basis alone. The further away you get from realistic art design, the more you've lost me. The more condescending the tone of the rules text, the more you've lost me. The more errors in that text, the more you've lost me.Dragon Age II (for example) and 4e are very similar in that while they both made controversial rules changes, they were both error-riddled products that lacked production value. In the D&D world, this is a significant reason that people left D&D for Pathfinder. PF has better-looking books with better-written text (though I don't like their art style much either). For WotC to please everyone, they'd need not just a new rules philosophy, but better books. I think even a fair amount of 4e people would agree with that.Okay.No hard feelings.</blockquote>

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