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<blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5659847" data-attributes="member: 4892">Maybe because we don't agree with your objective statement of &quot;mediocre.&quot; I consider my warlock to be, to borrow your phrase, &quot;near the top tier&quot; as both a striker and a controller, with better overall defenses than either the ranger or the wizard. Many of my powers enable the ranger to do the damage he does. In a vaccuum you might convince me, but as part of the team dynamic there is no wide gap between the classes.As for Fighter vs. Warlock, the Fighter's balance is different because he's on the front line. He can be &quot;top&quot; and &quot;near top&quot; without outclassing the warlock because the fighter is expected to hold the line and suck up the brunt of damage. And he wouldn't do as good of a job at it either without the support of his controllers and leaders.I think you have a very B&amp;W view of what's &quot;best&quot; and the type of character you enjoy may be clouding that. If one likes DPR, then the ranger is best. If one likes holding the line, the fighter is best. If one likes supporting the team in meaningful ways, other classes fit the bill. The gap only becomes too large, IMO, when a character is unable to make a real contribution to the party, not when you just stand there and compare DPR sizes. At that point one is probably just compensating for something. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vyvyan Basterd, post: 5659847, member: 4892"] Maybe because we don't agree with your objective statement of "mediocre." I consider my warlock to be, to borrow your phrase, "near the top tier" as both a striker and a controller, with better overall defenses than either the ranger or the wizard. Many of my powers enable the ranger to do the damage he does. In a vaccuum you might convince me, but as part of the team dynamic there is no wide gap between the classes. As for Fighter vs. Warlock, the Fighter's balance is different because he's on the front line. He can be "top" and "near top" without outclassing the warlock because the fighter is expected to hold the line and suck up the brunt of damage. And he wouldn't do as good of a job at it either without the support of his controllers and leaders. I think you have a very B&W view of what's "best" and the type of character you enjoy may be clouding that. If one likes DPR, then the ranger is best. If one likes holding the line, the fighter is best. If one likes supporting the team in meaningful ways, other classes fit the bill. The gap only becomes too large, IMO, when a character is unable to make a real contribution to the party, not when you just stand there and compare DPR sizes. At that point one is probably just compensating for something. :lol: [/QUOTE]

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