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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 3422280" data-attributes="member: 78">It's especially not impossible since I've seen PCs with the STR needed to lift an elephant.  Granted, they needed to be raging.  Even if Grappling an elephant isn't particularly likely, it still seems at least possible.  The size and STR mods for big creatures are generally going to prevent all but the most exceptional medium creatures from grappling anyway; I'm not sure there needs to be an specific ruling against off size grapples.The purpose of Xorn is to eat treasure.The barbed devil has fear to keep other characters away from the grapple.  A grappling character is very vulnerable to other melee attacks - especially from rogues - so you don't want anyone close enough to interfere.I never considered the Abyss to be mostly fiery, so Tanari having electrical immunity instead of fire didn't seem like a problem.</blockquote>