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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 3959957" data-attributes="member: 40109"><p>That's not exactly what the DMG says (on page 151), and the MotP merely repeats what the DMG says (almost verbatim).</p><p></p><p>What the DMG says on page 151 is: <span style="color: Teal">The only exceptions are spells and spell-like abilities that have the force descriptor, such as <em>magic missile</em> and <em>wall of force</em>, and abjuration spells that affect ethereal beings.</span></p><p></p><p>But on page 293, the DMG says: <span style="color: Teal">A force effect originating on the Material Plane extends onto the Ethereal Plane, so that a <em>wall of force</em> blocks an ethereal creature, and a <em>magic missile</em> can strike one (provided the spellcaster can see the ethereal target). Gaze effects and abjurations also extend from the Material Plane to the Ethereal Plane.</span></p><p></p><p>So which entry is correct?</p><p></p><p>I don't know for certain, but the <em>ethereal jaunt</em> spell description (PHB, page 228) also notes that: <span style="color: Teal">Force effects (such as <em>magic missile</em> and <em>wall of force</em>) and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally.</span> And since the DMG provides absolutely no guidance as to how we are to determine which abjuration spells affect ethereal beings and which ones don't, I suspect the authors simply made the common grammatical error (on page 151) of using "that" when they really meant "which."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 3959957, member: 40109"] That's not exactly what the DMG says (on page 151), and the MotP merely repeats what the DMG says (almost verbatim). What the DMG says on page 151 is: [COLOR=Teal]The only exceptions are spells and spell-like abilities that have the force descriptor, such as [I]magic missile[/I] and [I]wall of force[/I], and abjuration spells that affect ethereal beings.[/COLOR] But on page 293, the DMG says: [COLOR=Teal]A force effect originating on the Material Plane extends onto the Ethereal Plane, so that a [I]wall of force[/I] blocks an ethereal creature, and a [I]magic missile[/I] can strike one (provided the spellcaster can see the ethereal target). Gaze effects and abjurations also extend from the Material Plane to the Ethereal Plane.[/COLOR] So which entry is correct? I don't know for certain, but the [i]ethereal jaunt[/i] spell description (PHB, page 228) also notes that: [COLOR=Teal]Force effects (such as [I]magic missile[/I] and [I]wall of force[/I]) and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally.[/COLOR] And since the DMG provides absolutely no guidance as to how we are to determine which abjuration spells affect ethereal beings and which ones don't, I suspect the authors simply made the common grammatical error (on page 151) of using "that" when they really meant "which." [/QUOTE]
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