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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8417434" data-attributes="member: 23751">Page 7 of the PHB, Specific Beats General.&nbsp; A rule is a rule unless something SPECIFICALLY counters it, such as invisible being specifically countered by visible. Page 183 of the PHB, Vision and Light.&nbsp; Heavy obscurement blocks sight entirely.Page 274 of the PHB, See Invisibility.&nbsp; No part of See Invisibility specifically allows you to ignore the general vision rules.&nbsp; All it does is specifically allow you to see invisible people and objects as if they were visible, subject to the confines of the general Vision and Light rules. It's just as if invisibility were not present.&nbsp; Nothing more.It is in RAW, though.&nbsp; Walls are heavy obscurement.Edit: It's also on page 196 of the PHB, Cover.&nbsp; Walls can give you total cover, which also conceals you. Again, nothing in See Invisibility specifically negates the Cover rules, either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8417434, member: 23751"] Page 7 of the PHB, Specific Beats General. A rule is a rule unless something SPECIFICALLY counters it, such as invisible being specifically countered by visible. Page 183 of the PHB, Vision and Light. Heavy obscurement blocks sight entirely. Page 274 of the PHB, See Invisibility. No part of See Invisibility specifically allows you to ignore the general vision rules. All it does is specifically allow you to see invisible people and objects as if they were visible, subject to the confines of the general Vision and Light rules. It's just as if invisibility were not present. Nothing more. It is in RAW, though. Walls are heavy obscurement. Edit: It's also on page 196 of the PHB, Cover. Walls can give you total cover, which also conceals you. Again, nothing in See Invisibility specifically negates the Cover rules, either. [/QUOTE]

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