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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8418039" data-attributes="member: 7032025">2 years in advance and they are testing the waters. Of course, that long in advance, they are not going to sell that they are going to do almost nothing ! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />That is exactly my perspective as well (also because there is no guarantee that newer players will stick around and all become grognards, there must be a higher turnover amongst newer players than older, and therefore a more volatile customer base), which is why I'm defending this change which I believe is still very minor, as it helps new DMs. Older DMs have absolutely zero problem dealing with this and allowing counterspell on spell-like abilities if it is what they prefer.I wouldn't worry, because at the same time as they are revising, they might (without necessarily introducing tags like the 3e ones) clarify a bit more what is magic and what is not, what is counterspellable and what is not, and still maintain an interest for that spell. But given that it's a controversial one (much too easy (if you are not careful about limiting the perception of the adversaries) to use to shut down PCs or NPCs in particular, which is not always fun), I hope that it will see some revision for sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8418039, member: 7032025"] 2 years in advance and they are testing the waters. Of course, that long in advance, they are not going to sell that they are going to do almost nothing ! :) That is exactly my perspective as well (also because there is no guarantee that newer players will stick around and all become grognards, there must be a higher turnover amongst newer players than older, and therefore a more volatile customer base), which is why I'm defending this change which I believe is still very minor, as it helps new DMs. Older DMs have absolutely zero problem dealing with this and allowing counterspell on spell-like abilities if it is what they prefer. I wouldn't worry, because at the same time as they are revising, they might (without necessarily introducing tags like the 3e ones) clarify a bit more what is magic and what is not, what is counterspellable and what is not, and still maintain an interest for that spell. But given that it's a controversial one (much too easy (if you are not careful about limiting the perception of the adversaries) to use to shut down PCs or NPCs in particular, which is not always fun), I hope that it will see some revision for sure. [/QUOTE]

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