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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 363767" data-attributes="member: 1134"><p>I think it is very situational. If you are attacked in or near a city with some jsutice ssytem in the campaign, it would probably be not good to kill them when there is a viable less extreme alternative. If you are behind enemy lines, in so dep you need a 10' hollow tube to breathe not killing them is so stuipid I'd say it was perfectly justified good etc.</p><p></p><p> And by the way i don't think anything like this is remotely hypocritical. The thing is your end rarely will be too kill X, your end if to defeat X killing him happens to be the most reasonable means at our disposal. If you subdue him and he is defeated, you then are making the decision that even though I can defeat him now in a reaponable and practical manner without resorting to killing him I have decided to kill him, yes it now would be immoral.</p><p></p><p>Think of it this way Mr X had a bad year, and he slips the bonds of sanity and takes his family hostage. Police, swat, negotiators show up. They decide Mr. X is totally nuts, Mr swat team sniper you have the green light if you have a clear shot take it. </p><p></p><p> Situation 1 sniper gets a clear shot, bang he's dead. All on the up and up and moral.</p><p></p><p> situation 2 sniper gets a clear shot, bang he's not quite dead but unconscious. Police officer walks up, and puts another two into this guys head, and he is now dead. Yep immoral.</p><p></p><p> situation 3 the negotiators pull off a miracle and get Mr X to drop his guns and come out alone, the sniper then proceeds to take a shot, bang Mr X is dead. Again immoral. And in no way does this make the morality of situation 1 hypocritical.</p><p></p><p>Situation 4 Mr. X is a super villan who always escapes from prison to murder and ramapge upon society some more the negotiators get him to surrender, and the sniper still blows his head off. This would be illegal(as I understand the laws in the US) but not necessarily immoral in my mind. The end was protecting society from Mr. X and killing him was the only means possible at their dispossal in which to reach thier end.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 363767, member: 1134"] I think it is very situational. If you are attacked in or near a city with some jsutice ssytem in the campaign, it would probably be not good to kill them when there is a viable less extreme alternative. If you are behind enemy lines, in so dep you need a 10' hollow tube to breathe not killing them is so stuipid I'd say it was perfectly justified good etc. And by the way i don't think anything like this is remotely hypocritical. The thing is your end rarely will be too kill X, your end if to defeat X killing him happens to be the most reasonable means at our disposal. If you subdue him and he is defeated, you then are making the decision that even though I can defeat him now in a reaponable and practical manner without resorting to killing him I have decided to kill him, yes it now would be immoral. Think of it this way Mr X had a bad year, and he slips the bonds of sanity and takes his family hostage. Police, swat, negotiators show up. They decide Mr. X is totally nuts, Mr swat team sniper you have the green light if you have a clear shot take it. Situation 1 sniper gets a clear shot, bang he's dead. All on the up and up and moral. situation 2 sniper gets a clear shot, bang he's not quite dead but unconscious. Police officer walks up, and puts another two into this guys head, and he is now dead. Yep immoral. situation 3 the negotiators pull off a miracle and get Mr X to drop his guns and come out alone, the sniper then proceeds to take a shot, bang Mr X is dead. Again immoral. And in no way does this make the morality of situation 1 hypocritical. Situation 4 Mr. X is a super villan who always escapes from prison to murder and ramapge upon society some more the negotiators get him to surrender, and the sniper still blows his head off. This would be illegal(as I understand the laws in the US) but not necessarily immoral in my mind. The end was protecting society from Mr. X and killing him was the only means possible at their dispossal in which to reach thier end. [/QUOTE]
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