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<blockquote data-quote="Larrin" data-source="post: 4551994" data-attributes="member: 55816"><p>The thing is...nimble strike triggering an OA is a "hidden" RAW. 99% of people reading the power will see "shift, then attack" and read it as meaning "shift =no OA". Thus while Hypersmurf points out with his impeccable attention to detail that there really isn't any wiggle room when you get into the literal law as written, its irrelevant. Only people who talk to hypersmurf will ever even consider that the shift in nimble could trigger an OA, and that indicates to me that the best course of action is not to play that way. I would be flabberghasted to learn that the designers intended nimble strike to trigger an OA on the shift (or to put it another way, if i learned they didn't intend for the shift to avoid OA), and pretty darn disapointed in them too. </p><p></p><p>99% of people will read nimble strike and see that the shift doesn't trigger an OA. The rules are written in such a way that 99% of people (and this propably includes the people who wrote nimble strike) are wrong. Too bad for the rules, I say. There is no benefit to adhering to the rules in such a way. The reason nimble strike triggers an OA is 'hidden' and counter intuitive. Why would a shift, which normally doesn't provoke an OA, suddenly provoke an OA because sometime in the near future you're going to shoot your bow. Its nonsense. </p><p></p><p>So, dear smurf, I do admire your ability to read the rules as well as you do, you never cease to amaze (and at times, horrify) me with the completely true facts you present. I cannot fault your logic. It's just more fun (and makes more sense) to play the game wrong sometimes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larrin, post: 4551994, member: 55816"] The thing is...nimble strike triggering an OA is a "hidden" RAW. 99% of people reading the power will see "shift, then attack" and read it as meaning "shift =no OA". Thus while Hypersmurf points out with his impeccable attention to detail that there really isn't any wiggle room when you get into the literal law as written, its irrelevant. Only people who talk to hypersmurf will ever even consider that the shift in nimble could trigger an OA, and that indicates to me that the best course of action is not to play that way. I would be flabberghasted to learn that the designers intended nimble strike to trigger an OA on the shift (or to put it another way, if i learned they didn't intend for the shift to avoid OA), and pretty darn disapointed in them too. 99% of people will read nimble strike and see that the shift doesn't trigger an OA. The rules are written in such a way that 99% of people (and this propably includes the people who wrote nimble strike) are wrong. Too bad for the rules, I say. There is no benefit to adhering to the rules in such a way. The reason nimble strike triggers an OA is 'hidden' and counter intuitive. Why would a shift, which normally doesn't provoke an OA, suddenly provoke an OA because sometime in the near future you're going to shoot your bow. Its nonsense. So, dear smurf, I do admire your ability to read the rules as well as you do, you never cease to amaze (and at times, horrify) me with the completely true facts you present. I cannot fault your logic. It's just more fun (and makes more sense) to play the game wrong sometimes. [/QUOTE]
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