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<blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 203716" data-attributes="member: 2486">Call me a cynic, but I'm guessing that Dreaddisease had a bad experience with a scythe...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Coup de grace is perfectly balanced, and further- realistic.As hong has pointed out, if you're asleep, unconscious or whatever, any fool with a weapon can kill you.&nbsp; Six seconds is slightly generous, especially with an AoO thrown in.&nbsp; I'm sure that you could kill a sleeping person in less than one second.&nbsp; Further, as pointed out, six seconds is a long time in melee.&nbsp; Is it broken?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; If someone is sleeping, you should be able to kill him easily.&nbsp; It would be ridiculous if a man with a huge axe could get a clear shot on a sleepng fighter and not be able to kill him.&nbsp; The only possible argument against is the sleep/hold person routine.&nbsp; But that's not an argument.&nbsp; If you go through many spells, you can find them to be 'broken'.&nbsp; Color Spray is 'broken' by this logic.&nbsp; Any incapacitating spell is 'broken'.&nbsp; My cleric yesterday used Command: Die is conjunction with the party fighter to take out an enemy with a cdg, so is Command 'broken'.&nbsp; Are you really proposing all incapacitating spells be taken out of the game?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Al, post: 203716, member: 2486"] Call me a cynic, but I'm guessing that Dreaddisease had a bad experience with a scythe...:rolleyes: Coup de grace is perfectly balanced, and further- realistic. As hong has pointed out, if you're asleep, unconscious or whatever, any fool with a weapon can kill you. Six seconds is slightly generous, especially with an AoO thrown in. I'm sure that you could kill a sleeping person in less than one second. Further, as pointed out, six seconds is a long time in melee. Is it broken? No. If someone is sleeping, you should be able to kill him easily. It would be ridiculous if a man with a huge axe could get a clear shot on a sleepng fighter and not be able to kill him. The only possible argument against is the sleep/hold person routine. But that's not an argument. If you go through many spells, you can find them to be 'broken'. Color Spray is 'broken' by this logic. Any incapacitating spell is 'broken'. My cleric yesterday used Command: Die is conjunction with the party fighter to take out an enemy with a cdg, so is Command 'broken'. Are you really proposing all incapacitating spells be taken out of the game? [/QUOTE]

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