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Coup de grace when prone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Alyssia" data-source="post: 1207234" data-attributes="member: 9030"><p>The question I want to throw to the EN World community is, <strong>What can you do whilst prone?</strong></p><p>More specifically, can you coup de grace?</p><p></p><p>The problem came up in a recent 3.0 game we were playing. What had happened was.... </p><p>An orc adept had cast a sleep at the party, causing our spiked chain weilding fighter to fall asleep. </p><p>The adept then closed to stand 5 feet from him.</p><p>The elven wizard, immune to sleep, used the 'aid another' action to wake the fighter.</p><p>My halfling cleric cast command "sleep" at the orc adept, who failed the save and fell asleep.</p><p>The fighter, realising he couldn't both stand up and coup de grace the orc, decided he wanted to coup de grace it <em>from prone</em>.</p><p></p><p>Our DM disallowed this, saying that the -4 you get with melee attacks, while prone, means you can't strike accurately enough to perform a coup de grace,(and as the other 3rd ed DM in the group I agree).</p><p></p><p>The fighters player (also my husband, so I'll have to be nice! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) disagreed.</p><p>In the end (I think) we allowed him to attack with a -4 penalty against the orc who had an effective DEX of 0 (basically -5 to its flat footed AC).</p><p></p><p>He's still not too happy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> , so what do other people think?</p><p>Is this the fairest answer?</p><p>And what <strong>CAN</strong> you do when prone? Attack of Opportunities? Trip? Grapple?</p><p>Sorry if this has been asked before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alyssia, post: 1207234, member: 9030"] The question I want to throw to the EN World community is, [B]What can you do whilst prone?[/B] More specifically, can you coup de grace? The problem came up in a recent 3.0 game we were playing. What had happened was.... An orc adept had cast a sleep at the party, causing our spiked chain weilding fighter to fall asleep. The adept then closed to stand 5 feet from him. The elven wizard, immune to sleep, used the 'aid another' action to wake the fighter. My halfling cleric cast command "sleep" at the orc adept, who failed the save and fell asleep. The fighter, realising he couldn't both stand up and coup de grace the orc, decided he wanted to coup de grace it [I]from prone[/I]. Our DM disallowed this, saying that the -4 you get with melee attacks, while prone, means you can't strike accurately enough to perform a coup de grace,(and as the other 3rd ed DM in the group I agree). The fighters player (also my husband, so I'll have to be nice! :) ) disagreed. In the end (I think) we allowed him to attack with a -4 penalty against the orc who had an effective DEX of 0 (basically -5 to its flat footed AC). He's still not too happy :rolleyes: , so what do other people think? Is this the fairest answer? And what [B]CAN[/B] you do when prone? Attack of Opportunities? Trip? Grapple? Sorry if this has been asked before. [/QUOTE]
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