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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1212239" data-attributes="member: 2011">It is not a matter of bending rules. These are two totally different things.Having a rule of dropping weapons when falling asleep is using the DM adjudication rule to state that one rule that is not there at all is replaced with a rule from a similar rule. There is no rule at all for whether you drop a weapon when you fall asleep.Having a rule of picking up a weapon as a free action is changing a rule that already exists. There is already a rule for picking up a weapon (how do you know that when you are prone, your weapon is not at your feet and you still have to bend over to pick it up?).I realize that this is a subtle difference, but there it is. One rule does not exist at all and is added (due to a similar rule in a similar circumstance). One rule does exist and is modified.Granted, both of these are officially house rules. But then again, with such a strict definition of rules, it is now a house rule that you fall over when asleep. Sleep does not indicate that you fall over. It is a rule that does not exist.But, just like it is common sense that you fall over when asleep, it is common sense that you drop anything that you are holding (in a game model where you drop anything you are holding if stunned).In the case of picking up a weapon, it is not common sense that it is lying so close to your hand that you can easily pick it up as if it where in your hand. It could be at your feet. It could be 3 feet away. It could be under your body or caught in your cloak. There is no similar rule here that would indicate a free action should be given in this case like there is a similar rule for the dropping an item when stunned.So, that is the difference. One is creating a similar rule. One is creating a brand new rule.</blockquote>

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