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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wayside" data-source="post: 2282650" data-attributes="member: 8394">Actually, just in terms of the logic of myth, the relation of immaculate conception to virgin birth is sufficient but not necessary. All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. The D&D-d20 analogy doesn't really work. (I say the logic of myth because obviously anybody who wants to can design a new myth on the fly that contradicts the actual record of myths as a discipline of study, but such a myth would have about as much capital qua myth as Esperanto has qua language.)I was being too loose with the term certainly, although it does raise an interesting question as to the nature of Anakin's fall now that Danzauker brings it up. That is, Adam would have been born free of original sin, just as, if we read it a certain way, Anakin might have been, transposing the absolute morality of the concept of sin in the Judaeo-Christian tradition into the absolute of the light and dark sides of the force. And just as Jesus, in a sense the son of Adam, redeems his father's sin, so Luke restores Anakin to the light.I do believe that Lucas was working more with a general trend in myth than with any specific configuration though, just like he was working with trends in politics more than any specific contemporary political dynamic. But I suppose a case can be made for a Judaeo-Christian reading of the story, that is to say, I can at least entertain, if not accept, Anakin's immaculate conception as well as his virgin birth. Really though I liked Joshua's response in another thread, to the effect that this whole line of thought is unnecessary. I only brought it up initially as an argument against Palpatine's having created Anakin which seems more valid than the very "what if" scenarios necessary to make that reading of Anakin's birth work.</blockquote>

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