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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6164140" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Not sure there would be an objective answer there.  It begs further questioning with respect to a spellcaster caste (doh) system; who is proficient, expert, master, etc?  I'll take a cue from our world there and just let acumen adjudication be driven either by a specific metric or by some pre-determined frequency ratio within the population.  With respect to D&D spellcasters, you're probably talking about spell levels (rather than just Arcana, etc, checks) and that will vary by setting.  You can certainly have "able to successfully cast a 2nd level spell" as a binary pass/fail for graduates with post-graduate work requiring higher spell level proficiency.I agree.  I didn't like it and its absence is most certainly to facilitate a better gameplay experience.  I'm not condoning it.  I'm just ruminating upon the paradigm and why the same logic wasn't extended to martial characters performing stunts in their primary discipline (martial combat/athletics).  "I want to jump on this giants back and stab him like <insert heroic archetype>.""Oh man, that is way tough.  Its going to require these two checks, a Strength to jump and a Dex to balance, each of which have a 40 % chance of failure...then roll to hit.""Um, but this wizard can perfectly execute these Jimmy Hendrix riffs with his fingers plus his Luciano Pavarotti intonations in the midst of this stressful combat, while dodging arrows and hustling up this ridge to avoid the melee?""Yeah dude, like rock stars do all the time.""And professional point guards dribble the ball off their foot in traffic at a 50 % clip?...""Whatever, roll your dice and fail already.""Uh, I'll just hit him with my spear or bow or whatever..."</blockquote>

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