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<blockquote data-quote="MerakSpielman" data-source="post: 1197990" data-attributes="member: 7464"><p>I'm playing in this game.</p><p> </p><p>On his initiative, the enemy wizard attacked (to cut the bindings of an Animate Rope spell) and moved 30' into the dense foliage. We followed and in in the foliage ourselves. Lots of underbrush and shrubbery, not much in the way of open spaces between trees. This is rough, wild, overgrown terrain, except for the path we've vacated. The decision of Emerald seems to be that the dense foliage is providing cover rather than concealment, based on the rules stating that cover is solid obstructions and concealment is non-material visual impairment.</p><p> </p><p>The deal is that he's benefiting from the cover of the dense foliage in melee, with us right next to him. The rules do not state that cover is only for missile attacks, so this seems to be valid, yet I've never heard of it before. They also specifically state thay you cannot make attacks of opportunity while affected by cover, so he popped into invisibility right next to our fighter. He can't run without being heard, so he's trying to move silently so we can't pinpoint and attack him. Only one of us heard him move after casting, and not well enough to pinpoint his location (per the invisibilty rules, DMG). I also would assume if he moved too rapidly the movement of the foliage would betray his position.</p><p> </p><p>Now, it seems, he benefits from 3/4 cover <em>and</em> 100% concealment. Yet, he's not out of the woods yet (da-dum-<em>ching!</em>). This bastards not getting away again...</p><p> </p><p>I hope this clarifys the situation, and the cover rule confusion we're suffering from. Anybody care to clarify?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerakSpielman, post: 1197990, member: 7464"] I'm playing in this game. On his initiative, the enemy wizard attacked (to cut the bindings of an Animate Rope spell) and moved 30' into the dense foliage. We followed and in in the foliage ourselves. Lots of underbrush and shrubbery, not much in the way of open spaces between trees. This is rough, wild, overgrown terrain, except for the path we've vacated. The decision of Emerald seems to be that the dense foliage is providing cover rather than concealment, based on the rules stating that cover is solid obstructions and concealment is non-material visual impairment. The deal is that he's benefiting from the cover of the dense foliage in melee, with us right next to him. The rules do not state that cover is only for missile attacks, so this seems to be valid, yet I've never heard of it before. They also specifically state thay you cannot make attacks of opportunity while affected by cover, so he popped into invisibility right next to our fighter. He can't run without being heard, so he's trying to move silently so we can't pinpoint and attack him. Only one of us heard him move after casting, and not well enough to pinpoint his location (per the invisibilty rules, DMG). I also would assume if he moved too rapidly the movement of the foliage would betray his position. Now, it seems, he benefits from 3/4 cover [i]and[/i] 100% concealment. Yet, he's not out of the woods yet (da-dum-[i]ching![/i]). This bastards not getting away again... I hope this clarifys the situation, and the cover rule confusion we're suffering from. Anybody care to clarify? [/QUOTE]
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