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<blockquote data-quote="Golem Joe" data-source="post: 269358" data-attributes="member: 4123"><p>Setanta,</p><p></p><p>I suggeted you had answered your own question because, yes, it is nice to have all the conversion work done for you and see things in print. How much nicer do such things look in a shiney book as opposed to a scattered notebook of ink jet print outs.</p><p></p><p>Now, you asked would I drop $25 on a 128 page sourcebook that was half and half stats? That depends. As you may have gathered by now, I'm not extremely interested in stats, or crunchy bits, or whatever you want to call them. When I pick up a sourcebook for <strong>7th Sea</strong>, I'm looking for info on the world and on NPCs, organizations, storyhooks I can integrate into my campaign. NONE OF WHICH require stats or mechanics or rules. So if 7 pages of rules becomes 14, and the content doesn't suffer enormously, then I'll likely still be happy with the product. If that 7 pages of stats balloons into 50 pages, with all 43 of the extras devoted to d20 fluff, then yeah, I would have a problem, as it would definately cut into the content. </p><p></p><p>Not having looked at any of AEG's, PEG's or Holistic's dual stated books, I don't know what the ratios are. </p><p></p><p>Having followed the big Forgotten Rums thread here, its pretty clear a big percentage of the d20 audience is primarily interested in more rules. So I can see where dual-stated books cause a problem for this crowd. After all, 15 pages of rules dedicated to (insert system here) cuts into space that could be spent on more feats, prestige classes, spell stats, magic item stats, monster stats, DC trees, and other niggling minutia. And if that's what you are looking for, then I can't argue with you turning away from said product.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Golem Joe, post: 269358, member: 4123"] Setanta, I suggeted you had answered your own question because, yes, it is nice to have all the conversion work done for you and see things in print. How much nicer do such things look in a shiney book as opposed to a scattered notebook of ink jet print outs. Now, you asked would I drop $25 on a 128 page sourcebook that was half and half stats? That depends. As you may have gathered by now, I'm not extremely interested in stats, or crunchy bits, or whatever you want to call them. When I pick up a sourcebook for [b]7th Sea[/b], I'm looking for info on the world and on NPCs, organizations, storyhooks I can integrate into my campaign. NONE OF WHICH require stats or mechanics or rules. So if 7 pages of rules becomes 14, and the content doesn't suffer enormously, then I'll likely still be happy with the product. If that 7 pages of stats balloons into 50 pages, with all 43 of the extras devoted to d20 fluff, then yeah, I would have a problem, as it would definately cut into the content. Not having looked at any of AEG's, PEG's or Holistic's dual stated books, I don't know what the ratios are. Having followed the big Forgotten Rums thread here, its pretty clear a big percentage of the d20 audience is primarily interested in more rules. So I can see where dual-stated books cause a problem for this crowd. After all, 15 pages of rules dedicated to (insert system here) cuts into space that could be spent on more feats, prestige classes, spell stats, magic item stats, monster stats, DC trees, and other niggling minutia. And if that's what you are looking for, then I can't argue with you turning away from said product. [/QUOTE]
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