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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9146943" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Back in the day, it seemed inescapable that there would be scads of low-level casters out there. Out millions of people, how many qualify to be wizards or clerics? Like, millions, it's just a 9 INT or WIS, that's dead average. In 1e, permanent duration spells started as low as 2nd (continual light) the Cleric's 3rd level version was reversible. So, yeah, more organized cities had 3rd level wizard lamp-lighters maintaining the infrastructure. Larger/older temples had Con.Light (or darkness) just cast into certain rooms for esoteric reasons. </p><p>And it's not just the permanent stuff, lost of low level spells could be used to run confidence games, wreck security precautions, and generally make a hash of medieval power-centers. </p><p>Shopkeepers routinely thwack every gp they get with cold iron to make sure it's not those darn lamplighters trying to pass Fools Gold, again. (no wonder gp are so big in 1e, they had to take a lot of abuse). Secure buildings have not just guards but almost air-lock-like doors to prevent invisible saboteurs from slipping by. </p><p>For that matter, there's upsides from lower level spells, a 1e 3rd level Druid could cast Plant Growth on crops, and save lives of people and livestock with Neutralize Poison and Cure Disease and Cure Light Wounds for accidents... Predict the Weather, too. </p><p></p><p>It gets really silly, really fast. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9146943, member: 996"] Back in the day, it seemed inescapable that there would be scads of low-level casters out there. Out millions of people, how many qualify to be wizards or clerics? Like, millions, it's just a 9 INT or WIS, that's dead average. In 1e, permanent duration spells started as low as 2nd (continual light) the Cleric's 3rd level version was reversible. So, yeah, more organized cities had 3rd level wizard lamp-lighters maintaining the infrastructure. Larger/older temples had Con.Light (or darkness) just cast into certain rooms for esoteric reasons. And it's not just the permanent stuff, lost of low level spells could be used to run confidence games, wreck security precautions, and generally make a hash of medieval power-centers. Shopkeepers routinely thwack every gp they get with cold iron to make sure it's not those darn lamplighters trying to pass Fools Gold, again. (no wonder gp are so big in 1e, they had to take a lot of abuse). Secure buildings have not just guards but almost air-lock-like doors to prevent invisible saboteurs from slipping by. For that matter, there's upsides from lower level spells, a 1e 3rd level Druid could cast Plant Growth on crops, and save lives of people and livestock with Neutralize Poison and Cure Disease and Cure Light Wounds for accidents... Predict the Weather, too. It gets really silly, really fast. ;) [/QUOTE]
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