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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Happiest_Sadist" data-source="post: 843640" data-attributes="member: 1743">Why the fire and cold resistance.  This gives me a bit of trouble, as one of the few ways to get rid of a summon swarm spell is fire.  And do the swarms they detatch have it?  If not, why not?  I think the resistances should be cut to 5 at the least.  I'd also like the swarns to do HP loss/damage, like spectral hand instead of the con damage/staggering/whatnot.  Say caster level=HD, damage= d6/HD.I'd also like to see them acting as a summon swarm spell while in their swarmform.I'd say CR 3 as written if the swarms have fire resistance, and DR is there.  However with the arzurelets the CR shoots through the roof with rogue levels.  So I would be very cautious.CR 2 without these things.I'd say ECL is almost impossible to determine becauise of so many abilities that are hoss.  Swarmform is almost as good as gaseous form, they have natural poison with a tough save, they have a good ranged attack inate (hand crossbow or better), DR, good resistances, and outsider HD.  If rogues azurelets is worth an additional +2 on its own.I'd eyeball it at +7-8 ECL.Nix azurelets, cut the resistances to 5 apiece, and nix DR and I'd say +5ECL.  I'd stand by that and play a rogue 2 auruzre in my level 7 party.</blockquote>