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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 6481231" data-attributes="member: 6786202">There is a clear undeniable relationship between CR and encounter guideline building, the fact people are trying to deny this is baffling.The monster manual makes the base assumption that the relationship between CR and encounter difficulty is that one monster of CR equal to the parties level should be a 'challenging' encounter for 4 party members. So based on that assumption, how does CR directly relate to the encounter building guideline XP budgets?This is how they relate:[ATTACH]65864[/ATTACH]This table illustrates what happens when you take a monster of CR equal to the party level (against 4 party members), and divide the encounter budget by how many monsters of that CR are expected in that encounter.Apart from the fact there is a CLEAR relationship, this also tells you: To get an easy encounter to use roughly half a monster of CR equal to the party level.To get a medium encounter you use roughly 1 monster of CR equal to the party level.To get a hard encounter you use roughly 1.5 monsters of CR equal to the party level.To get a deadly encounter you use roughly 2 monsters of CR equal to the party level.And this probably explains why the whole encounter building guidelines are so messed up. 2xCR1 monsters against a 1st level party WILL be deadly. 2xCR20 monsters against a 20th level party will be a cakewalk.</blockquote>