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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6482628" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Yes, I remember that table well. Trolls are my favorite AD&D2 monster because they are ruthlessly optimized to be as powerful as possible without crossing any of the thresholds that give PCs extra experience points for killing them.So, if you're talking about DMG tables and not MM tables, 5E follows the same pattern as 2nd edition, except it also gives you one of the intermediate results (CR) whereas in 2nd edition you would have had to look at the DMG table to figure out what "effective HD" it had. (But you wouldn't have done that in the first place, because the 2nd edition paradigm for computing monster frequency was based off of rarity and number appearing instead of off of desired encounter difficulty--so there was no reason to care about effective HD/"CR".) But in no case did AD&D2 use the star notation.</blockquote>