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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3276219" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'm squarely in the guidelines camp.&nbsp; Since I started running the World's Largest Dungeon, this has certainly been the most combat intensive campaign I've ever run.&nbsp; We average 2 to 3 combats every session with 4 and 5 happening more than a few times (we play 3 hour sessions).&nbsp; After 70 sessions and somewhere in the neighbourhood of 200 to 300 combats, I can honestly say that the guidelines hold up very, very well.We've had a group as small as four and as large as six, with a pretty wide selection of classes and resource books, so, when people start going on and on about power creep, I gotta admit that I certainly don't see it.&nbsp; Hands down the most combat effective character we have is the orc barbarian with power attack and a greataxe.&nbsp; The least effective characters have almost always been the ones drawn from other sources - the Favoured Soul, the Warmage, and the Scout have all been less powerful in combat than a cleric, wizard or thief.I ran an encounter a while ago with four straight encounters EL -1, EL -1, EL par and EL +1.&nbsp; And, it went almost by textbook - the party was pretty much out of spells by the end and succeeded by the skin of their teeth.&nbsp; Which is exactly what the EL guidelines predict.&nbsp; Granted, I haven't played with creatures above CR 20, so, I can't speak to that.&nbsp; But, I certainly haven't had the issues that some seem to have regarding the guidelines.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3276219, member: 22779"] I'm squarely in the guidelines camp. Since I started running the World's Largest Dungeon, this has certainly been the most combat intensive campaign I've ever run. We average 2 to 3 combats every session with 4 and 5 happening more than a few times (we play 3 hour sessions). After 70 sessions and somewhere in the neighbourhood of 200 to 300 combats, I can honestly say that the guidelines hold up very, very well. We've had a group as small as four and as large as six, with a pretty wide selection of classes and resource books, so, when people start going on and on about power creep, I gotta admit that I certainly don't see it. Hands down the most combat effective character we have is the orc barbarian with power attack and a greataxe. The least effective characters have almost always been the ones drawn from other sources - the Favoured Soul, the Warmage, and the Scout have all been less powerful in combat than a cleric, wizard or thief. I ran an encounter a while ago with four straight encounters EL -1, EL -1, EL par and EL +1. And, it went almost by textbook - the party was pretty much out of spells by the end and succeeded by the skin of their teeth. Which is exactly what the EL guidelines predict. Granted, I haven't played with creatures above CR 20, so, I can't speak to that. But, I certainly haven't had the issues that some seem to have regarding the guidelines. [/QUOTE]

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