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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3282272" data-attributes="member: 4937">Celebrim checks the SRD, &quot;So they were!&quot;&nbsp; Good for them.Allow me to ammend the above:In general, you should add one to two to the CR of all Dragons if you want to represent thier true difficulty - and the appropriate XP award - if you are using the 3.0 monster manual.It looks like in 3.5 they went across the board and added 1 CR to all the dragons.&nbsp; In some cases (say Juvenile Blue) I'm not sure that's quite enough, but at least its close.&nbsp; What's amazed me about this thread so far is that mostly its been an argument between a few argumentative people like myself, a few hold out posters that are insisting in the face of all the evidence to the contrary that the existing RAW work quite well.&nbsp; I mean, I guess that shouldn't be surprising since it seems like half the arguments here are between people that insist that the RAW are complete and perfect as they are and the ones that think otherwise, but still; it's CR.&nbsp; It's not like its a secret that it has problems.&nbsp; Anyway, as I was saying, what's amazed me about this thread so far is that more of the 96.5% of all people who say that it has problems haven't been trying to convince the rest of us that they have a better guidelines.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3282272, member: 4937"] Celebrim checks the SRD, "So they were!" Good for them. Allow me to ammend the above: In general, you should add one to two to the CR of all Dragons if you want to represent thier true difficulty - and the appropriate XP award - if you are using the 3.0 monster manual. It looks like in 3.5 they went across the board and added 1 CR to all the dragons. In some cases (say Juvenile Blue) I'm not sure that's quite enough, but at least its close. What's amazed me about this thread so far is that mostly its been an argument between a few argumentative people like myself, a few hold out posters that are insisting in the face of all the evidence to the contrary that the existing RAW work quite well. I mean, I guess that shouldn't be surprising since it seems like half the arguments here are between people that insist that the RAW are complete and perfect as they are and the ones that think otherwise, but still; it's CR. It's not like its a secret that it has problems. Anyway, as I was saying, what's amazed me about this thread so far is that more of the 96.5% of all people who say that it has problems haven't been trying to convince the rest of us that they have a better guidelines. [/QUOTE]

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