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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 3093551" data-attributes="member: 3854"><p>What is this creature’s CR?</p><p></p><p>The creature below is built off the black pudding (CR 7) with the fiendish template (+2 CR). Changes I made are:</p><p></p><p>-- Instead of making a slam attack and then starting a grapple, this creature moves into the victim’s area (provoking an AoO) and begins the grapple.</p><p></p><p>-- Dropped reach from 10’ to 0’ (must envelope an opponent rather than reach out and pummel).</p><p></p><p>-- Increased grapple check from +18 to +28 (added +10 for being morphable – how do you out-wrestle a freakin’ blob?)*</p><p></p><p>-- Instead of immunity to slashing and piercing weapons (which split the pudding into more puddings), I made it immune to bludgeoning (how do you smash an ooze?), take minimum damage from piercing, and regular damage from slashing. Also, any victim grappled inside the ooze takes half the weapon damage (figured normally, regardless of how much the ooze itself takes).</p><p></p><p></p><p>The standard black pudding for comparison:</p><p></p><p>The party this will go up against are:</p><p></p><p>human paladin 11 (with dire wolf special mount)</p><p>human ranger 11 (with heavy horse companion)</p><p>halfling sorcerer 11 (with pseudodragon familiar)</p><p>human cleric 9</p><p></p><p>The encounter will be in a 30’x30’ room with two doors. The ooze will be hiding under a lair of mud on the floor (the whole dungeon is covered in mud).</p><p></p><p>I’d appreciate help with nailing down the CR. Also feel free to give advice/suggestions/warnings on this encounter.</p><p></p><p>* The paladin’s dire wolf has a +19 grapple check, and the sorcerer’s <em>evard’s black tentacles</em> has a +19 grapple check [give or take a point]. Knowing these numbers, I can’t understand how a Huge ooze has only a +18 grapple check.</p><p></p><p>Quasqueton</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 3093551, member: 3854"] What is this creature’s CR? The creature below is built off the black pudding (CR 7) with the fiendish template (+2 CR). Changes I made are: -- Instead of making a slam attack and then starting a grapple, this creature moves into the victim’s area (provoking an AoO) and begins the grapple. -- Dropped reach from 10’ to 0’ (must envelope an opponent rather than reach out and pummel). -- Increased grapple check from +18 to +28 (added +10 for being morphable – how do you out-wrestle a freakin’ blob?)* -- Instead of immunity to slashing and piercing weapons (which split the pudding into more puddings), I made it immune to bludgeoning (how do you smash an ooze?), take minimum damage from piercing, and regular damage from slashing. Also, any victim grappled inside the ooze takes half the weapon damage (figured normally, regardless of how much the ooze itself takes). The standard black pudding for comparison: The party this will go up against are: human paladin 11 (with dire wolf special mount) human ranger 11 (with heavy horse companion) halfling sorcerer 11 (with pseudodragon familiar) human cleric 9 The encounter will be in a 30’x30’ room with two doors. The ooze will be hiding under a lair of mud on the floor (the whole dungeon is covered in mud). I’d appreciate help with nailing down the CR. Also feel free to give advice/suggestions/warnings on this encounter. * The paladin’s dire wolf has a +19 grapple check, and the sorcerer’s [i]evard’s black tentacles[/i] has a +19 grapple check [give or take a point]. Knowing these numbers, I can’t understand how a Huge ooze has only a +18 grapple check. Quasqueton [/QUOTE]
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